I see those cars but there is a big diference between there miles and yours. 64,000 miles and 50,000 make a big difference in value. The number i gave you is a wholesale figure and a realistic figure on what you should be getting an 02 for in my opinion. It would be a good deal for you. Too bad you just started looking my old 2002 black was just up for sale, 22k miles for 19k. They are out there though.