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Originally Posted by RedCelica' timestamp='1316896744' post='21002550
[quote name='Habitforming' timestamp='1316895564' post='21002522']
[quote name='s2kmiami69' timestamp='1316834402' post='21001220']
[quote name='vanDiemen' timestamp='1316558966' post='20990919']
**WARNING** technical explanation below. for those of you that can't be bothered with physics, how microwaves work, or science in general: here is a bucket of kittens for your enjoyment:
VSA is pretty conservative if you go into a corner hard. Meaning it will brake the outside front wheel for you for stability. Do a couple of aggressive mountain passes and the left front brake pads get overused quick (right-handers are tighter than left-handers). With some skill one can easily learn to feather throttle to allow the car to rotate more mid-turn to counter for that understeer happening if you went in too deep. This is all based on street tires and stock pads. When you throw in R-compound tires with little tread left, and some heavy-duty track pads as I was running, and agressive camber (less tire contacting ground in straight line braking) the VSA throws off the stability of the car mid-turn because it is too jerky due to track pads braking harder, and VSA not understanding the limits of the stickier tires have increased, therefore activating too early.
[quote name='s2kmiami69' timestamp='1316834402' post='21001220']
[quote name='vanDiemen' timestamp='1316558966' post='20990919']
**WARNING** technical explanation below. for those of you that can't be bothered with physics, how microwaves work, or science in general: here is a bucket of kittens for your enjoyment:
VSA is pretty conservative if you go into a corner hard. Meaning it will brake the outside front wheel for you for stability. Do a couple of aggressive mountain passes and the left front brake pads get overused quick (right-handers are tighter than left-handers). With some skill one can easily learn to feather throttle to allow the car to rotate more mid-turn to counter for that understeer happening if you went in too deep. This is all based on street tires and stock pads. When you throw in R-compound tires with little tread left, and some heavy-duty track pads as I was running, and agressive camber (less tire contacting ground in straight line braking) the VSA throws off the stability of the car mid-turn because it is too jerky due to track pads braking harder, and VSA not understanding the limits of the stickier tires have increased, therefore activating too early.
my last set of star specs wore perfectly even, however i didn't run them down as far as these...then again, i always did think there was something hinky with this set right from the very beginning.[/quote]
His profile says he has an '07
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I would've sworn when we were talking about it, he said his was also an '04 - that's why it stuck out in my mindone too many meetings, I suppose
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nope you're right shes an 04 just like yours...but yeah i know she don't have vsa lol, really just thought it had something to do with the right handers being tighter than the left
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Originally Posted by Habitforming' timestamp='1316895564' post='21002522
[quote name='s2kmiami69' timestamp='1316834402' post='21001220']
[quote name='vanDiemen' timestamp='1316558966' post='20990919']
**WARNING** technical explanation below. for those of you that can't be bothered with physics, how microwaves work, or science in general: here is a bucket of kittens for your enjoyment:
VSA is pretty conservative if you go into a corner hard. Meaning it will brake the outside front wheel for you for stability. Do a couple of aggressive mountain passes and the left front brake pads get overused quick (right-handers are tighter than left-handers). With some skill one can easily learn to feather throttle to allow the car to rotate more mid-turn to counter for that understeer happening if you went in too deep. This is all based on street tires and stock pads. When you throw in R-compound tires with little tread left, and some heavy-duty track pads as I was running, and agressive camber (less tire contacting ground in straight line braking) the VSA throws off the stability of the car mid-turn because it is too jerky due to track pads braking harder, and VSA not understanding the limits of the stickier tires have increased, therefore activating too early.
[quote name='vanDiemen' timestamp='1316558966' post='20990919']
**WARNING** technical explanation below. for those of you that can't be bothered with physics, how microwaves work, or science in general: here is a bucket of kittens for your enjoyment:
VSA is pretty conservative if you go into a corner hard. Meaning it will brake the outside front wheel for you for stability. Do a couple of aggressive mountain passes and the left front brake pads get overused quick (right-handers are tighter than left-handers). With some skill one can easily learn to feather throttle to allow the car to rotate more mid-turn to counter for that understeer happening if you went in too deep. This is all based on street tires and stock pads. When you throw in R-compound tires with little tread left, and some heavy-duty track pads as I was running, and agressive camber (less tire contacting ground in straight line braking) the VSA throws off the stability of the car mid-turn because it is too jerky due to track pads braking harder, and VSA not understanding the limits of the stickier tires have increased, therefore activating too early.
my last set of star specs wore perfectly even, however i didn't run them down as far as these...then again, i always did think there was something hinky with this set right from the very beginning.[/quote]
yeah i have an 04 and i know vsa wasn't added til 06. i was just talking about how he said right handers are tighter than left handers. thought maybe that alone would lead to my rear passenger side tire wearing faster than the rear drivers side (only by a smidge though) didn't think that had anything to do with vsa, seeing as i know i don't have vsa. but because he said rights are tighter than lefts
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Originally Posted by s2kmiami69' timestamp='1316915232' post='21003032
yeah andy is fast as shit
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/574359...n_fx_catch_22/
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Originally Posted by airgate' timestamp='1316915409' post='21003036
[quote name='s2kmiami69' timestamp='1316915232' post='21003032']
yeah andy is fast as shit
yeah andy is fast as shit
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/574359...n_fx_catch_22/
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FCPD Stage 2
I thought we drove harder on this one, but we end up hitting traffic pretty early on. Had a good pace there for a bit.
Thanks for the compliments, guys
And for Raulo
FCPD Stage 2
I thought we drove harder on this one, but we end up hitting traffic pretty early on. Had a good pace there for a bit.
Thanks for the compliments, guys
And for Raulo