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T3 is National but the S2000 is not moved yet

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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Default T3 is National but the S2000 is not moved yet

The good news is that T3 is National for 2006 thanks to all of our efforts; however currently the S2000 is not in T3.

Short recap:
Many people have requested the S2000 be moved to T3 (with adjustments if needed, to run even with the Rx8).
In the April FasTrack the CRB (Club Racing Board) said they would monitor the situation in the current season (2005) and consider the move for next season (2006). There has been no further mention in FasTrack since.
Since April, many more letters in support of moving the car have been sent in.

The approval process for reclassification is 3 tiered (Advisory committee, CRB, BoD - Board of Directors). Only the BoD can approve a reclassification but they only meet twice a year (Aug & Dec). This issue was not on their agenda for Aug, and it is currently not on their December agenda due to the someone from the Advisory committee who is against it (reasons unknown). An item is not put on the BoD agenda unless the CRB recommends it or a Director brings the items on his own (very rare). At this short notice before the Dec meeting only a Director can bring this as an agenda item and still get it voted on before the 2006 season; if not this item is dead until the 2007 season.

So the only way to make this happen is get the Directors involved, and to let them know you support it. This is the same thing we went through after the Runoffs trying to get T3 to be National for next year in the first place.

Here is all the BOD member with links to their emails:
http://scca.com/Inside/Index.asp?IdS=04516...00&x=080|070&~=
that is in addition to the blanket BOD@scca.com

If you are an SCCA member, at the very least, please contact your area Director and let him know your feelings on this issue. The car can never be sped the 3.5 seconds it's behind the big horsepower front runners, it's much more feasible to equalize it to the Rx8's level.

If you don't know which area you are in:
http://scca.com/Inside/Index.asp?IdS=047F7...egionalSites&~=

Let me know if you have questions.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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i'm emailing everyone in my class...hopefully they do it this time around.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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I just did.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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Email sent
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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i got an email back from gary pitts:

"Your message has been forwarded to the CRB and the BoD.

Gary Pitts"

at least i know he read it lol
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 04:53 AM
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I've got one in for the NE region to Brian Holz.

How about some more out there 100 some odd views and 5 responses, we can do MUCH better than that. Just a short note please.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 05:24 AM
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C'mon guys, send those emails out.
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well i just got some great news from my teacher...
my classmate geoff pitts is the son of Gary Pitts (area 9 bod and chairman of the board of directors)
according to gary the s2k will be in T3 next year but will be run along with showroom stock b (with stock b being allowed some performance modifications) currently looking for it written down somewhere
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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I have two steel cities and three new england members on our side!

emails sent
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ButteHondaPACTRacing,Dec 1 2005, 04:12 PM
well i just got some great news from my teacher...
my classmate geoff pitts is the son of Gary Pitts (area 9 bod and chairman of the board of directors)
according to gary the s2k will be in T3 next year but will be run along with showroom stock b (with stock b being allowed some performance modifications) currently looking for it written down somewhere
Unfortunately, the January Fastrack says the opposite. Here's the quote from the "Not Recommended" section for Touring/SS:

"9. T2 - Reclassify the Honda S2000 to T3 (Burkett). The car is faster than the performance parameters of T3."

Here's the link to the bad news: http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/06-1-fastrack.pdf

So that means the car will NOT be reclassed to T3 in 2006.... it'll have to run in T2 again, which is a joke. I'm going to send in another letter to the CRB and I hope you all do too. The S2000 BELONGS in T3 with the RX8 and others and, yes, although it would be a front runner there, it could be slowed with weight, or an inlet restrictor. It DOESN'T belong in T2 with 2 ton, 400HP Cadillac CTSV's, Mustanks, Camaros, Firebirds and the like.

Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but it SEEMS like either the SCCA or Honda themselves (or both?) don't want the S2000 to be classed competitively, and it's a damn shame.

Can you ask Geoff to ask his dad why this decision was made? I'd love to hear what went in to this decision, though I doubt we'd get the whole truth from the SCCA OR Honda....
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