mucter

http://www.hondata.com/reflash_s2k_06.html

VTEC point decreased from 6000 rpm to 5600 rpm
Rev limit 8500 rpm
Maximum torque gain 14 ft/lbs torque at 5800 rpm
Maximum power gain 16 hp at 5800 rpm
Fully dealer compatible - works with all Honda scan tools and equipment

http://www.hondata.com/reflash_s2k_toda_header.html

VTEC point decreased from 6000 rpm to 4200 rpm
Rev limit 8500 rpm
Maximum torque gain 20 ft/lbs torque at 5800 rpm
Maximum power gain 23 hp at 5800 rpm
Fully dealer compatible - works with all Honda scan tools and equipment


$595 for either

Nimbus

That's with Toda Header.

This is on a stock '06:

VTEC point decreased from 6000 rpm to 5600 rpm
Rev limit 8500 rpm
Maximum torque gain 14 ft/lbs torque at 5800 rpm
Maximum power gain 16 hp at 5800 rpm

klee1113

WOW.... $$?

mucter

yeah, I was just in a hurry, I updated the post. thanks

notyou

"The 06 S2000 is the first S2000 by Honda to have a programmable ECU. Our observations are that this is a very well tuned car from the factory. There were no peak power gains, but by raising the rev limit will increase the average power available when you shift at the rev limit."

Gotta pull the ECU and ship it in for the reflash.

Seems like a lot of money and trouble for minimal gain, at least compared to the gains the similarly priced (and no ECU pulling required) Cobb AccessPORT provided my '05 Saabaru (+25hp, +25 ftlbs).

With the header, however...

omg516

those are some nice midrange gains

mucter

yeah the gains only seem worth it with the header. I'm actually dissappointed with Hondata on this one, they usually can do some pretty impressive stuff, guess Honda just has the S2000 dialed in. Who would have thought??

tbonesteak

you cannot simply look at the peak gains and call it "minimal gains". This is exactly what happened with the rsx-s community few years ago when their hondata reflash had just came out. Peak gains were about the same as the s2k application, but the curves were flattened out and pre/post vtec engagement spikes were almost eliminated. Lowered vtec engagement point and the added midrange really improved the acceleration as well. Also as proven with the rsx-s application, hondata's raised redline comes from a tremendous amount of r&d and has been proven reliable for years. If you are familiar with hondata reflashes, you wouldn't be calling it a minimal gain for a lot of money for hondata doesnt specialize in adding a ton of hp at the redline. Think about adding bolt ons that would yield similar power. It would cost a few grand.

Overall, i see a lot of owners (atleast the ap2s) swapping to 06 ecu for this reflash and the 06 really got hooked up this time. I will definitely be doing this swap.

gosixers215

I assume that's 16 whp? If so, aside from the trouble of pulling the ECU, it's a lot of bang for the buck.

On a side note, isn't 4200 a low VTEC point for having just a header? I guess I could see it on more heavily modified or FI cars. (just curious)

tbonesteak

vtec engagement from 4200-8500. I think i'll like that.