**DRAMA*With friends like this..Who needs enemies
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**DRAMA*With friends like this..Who needs enemies
Ok. Well I've given Lil Ant plenty of time to take care of our situation. Even tried to give him a lead to try and sell the softop. But after PMs and especially the last one of threatening me and asking me "you want to come by so we can handle this s***t" I've had enough. Here's the story...sorry it's a bit long...
So I saw that Ant(a former friend of mine), had posted a thread about selling a softop. Here's the thread...
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...&#entry10365096
So he states that the top is "in great condition..No scratch and no tear" I asked him about the top and he said that he was selling for a friend. Of course this isn't mentioned in his thread. Also, anyone that knows Ant knows he likes to purchase things and resell at a profit. I had no problem with the price and was even telling the Aaron that Ant probably made a little profit. So keep in mind, I agreed upon the price.
So Ant and I pick up the top at some guys house(s2kboys) I believe At no time did I ever meet with the "friend" or was told of who the "friend" was that was selling the top. I only dealth with Ant. Gave the cash to Ant. When we picked it up, it was lying in the guy's backyard and it looked a little dusty, but I Ant was supposedly my friend and I had trusted what he had told me about the top. This all happened in May.....
About a week later, I take the top to RevJunky's house to get it installed. As he is installing it, we notice there are several small tears and some holes in the top. (see about quote for what condition it was supposed to be in) I call Ant and tell him about these. He calls his "friend" and tells me that the guy will take care of these. Great no problem right?? WRONG. We later discover that the frame is bent on the top so we can't even install it. So I tell Ant about this and he said that we'll return the top and get my money back.
Keep in mind that I had never dealt with his "friend." I asked Ant if his "friend" posted on S2ki or if I can get his "friend's" number. Ant told me the guy doesn't go onto S2ki and Ant said he'd take care of getting my money back. I wait throughout the entire month of June and keep getting from Ant that Ant has tried to call the guy numerous times and left messages but the guy hasn't responded back. I even asked Ant where the guy lived and all Ant would give me was that he lived somewhere in Downey.
So then I get from Ant that the guy is outta town and won't be back until July 16th. Ant had told me that this guy owes Ant $1400 too so it looks like we're both in the same predicament. Ant told me we can both go to his house and ask him about our money when his "friend" gets back. That week comes and towards the end of the week, I call Ant again asking him what is going on. Ant tells me he called the guy and talked to his mom. His mom told Ant that the guy was in some sort of legal trouble. Then, Ant calls me back a little bit later and tells me he talked to the guys sister and that the guy is hiding from the law or something. So, I ask Ant for the guy's number AGAIN. Then Ant tells me he talked to the guy and that the guy will not give me back the money because he said the top was in working condition. So now Ant tells me that we'll take it to small claims court and get this guy. Ant FINALLY gives me the guys number so I call him.
The guy immediately tells me that he is recording our conversation to which I agree upon. This guy's name is Mike, and he proceeds to tell me that Ant and him WERE homies too once upon a time...And that he had sold the top to ANT for only $500! He had also thrown in a few other items from his wrecked car. But after receiving many harrassing and threatening phone calls from Ant, and after Ant had told him that he had retained a lawyer for this, Mike was fed up. Mike then tells me that he has pictures and proof that the top was still working when he sold it to ANT. Also, that he did not owe Ant ANY money at all. So, I call Ant back about this to confront him. I asked Ant WHO was selling the top. He then tells me that it was another friend. After trying to shift blame again, he asks me what I want to do. I tell him that I feel that it is his responsibility and that I should get the money back from him(Ant). He agrees and asks me for a week to get the money back. I'm thinking this thing is finally resolved....Now this was towards the end of July
A week later, I called Ant asking him when he could get me the money. He texts me back and tells me it hasn't been a week and blah blah blah. Come to find out, he's telling a mutual friend of ours how he's pissed off about this because of all the things he's done for me and doesn't want to speak to me anymore. A week later(we're into August now) I get $300 from our mutual friend which came from Ant. I'm thinking, cool he just needs time to come up with $800($500 remaining now) so I'm ok with that. About a week ago, I come across a posting about someone needing just the softop material with the glass(no frame, motor, etc.) So I PM Ant telling him about this so that maybe Ant can sell that to the guy and recoup some of his money.
With that, I get a nasty reply back saying that he did make money off of me on that transaction and that the top wasnt his, but Mikes and that he will not be taking any more responsibility for all of this. That I had made money off of him blah blah blah. I replied to him that I KNEW that he had made money off of me on the top. That, I didn't have as much of a problem with compared to the fact that the top was useless!! We PM back and forth about this whole thing. I keep trying to reitirate the fact to him that I dealt with HIM only throughout this whole process and not Mike. But, now he is washing his hands free of this whole transaction.
It is sad because Ant had helped me out a lot and I had considered him a very close friend. That fact is undeniable. He was one of my groomsmen at my recent wedding, let me use his place for our engagement party, worked on my car. NOW, he has brought it to my attention that he did all these things for me free of charge and that he was only making money off of me because I had made money off of him?? That's another story in itself. Again Ant, I had no problem with you making money off of me. My problem is that you had lied to me throughout this whole process and it is YOU who should be responsible for the top. It doesn't matter if Mike sold it to you or not, it was only YOU who I had dealt with. There's no need to threaten me. We're not in High School anymore. Just do the right thing. Your reputation on here seemed to be pretty good. But, after this, sadly our friendship and any business relationships will end. Not sure why you are so upset over this thing. It is me, if anyone, that should be upset. But, I wasn't until you started bringing up all those past things you had done for me and how you want to settle things at your house and so on and so forth....
What do you guys think should be done??
So I saw that Ant(a former friend of mine), had posted a thread about selling a softop. Here's the thread...
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...&#entry10365096
So he states that the top is "in great condition..No scratch and no tear" I asked him about the top and he said that he was selling for a friend. Of course this isn't mentioned in his thread. Also, anyone that knows Ant knows he likes to purchase things and resell at a profit. I had no problem with the price and was even telling the Aaron that Ant probably made a little profit. So keep in mind, I agreed upon the price.
So Ant and I pick up the top at some guys house(s2kboys) I believe At no time did I ever meet with the "friend" or was told of who the "friend" was that was selling the top. I only dealth with Ant. Gave the cash to Ant. When we picked it up, it was lying in the guy's backyard and it looked a little dusty, but I Ant was supposedly my friend and I had trusted what he had told me about the top. This all happened in May.....
About a week later, I take the top to RevJunky's house to get it installed. As he is installing it, we notice there are several small tears and some holes in the top. (see about quote for what condition it was supposed to be in) I call Ant and tell him about these. He calls his "friend" and tells me that the guy will take care of these. Great no problem right?? WRONG. We later discover that the frame is bent on the top so we can't even install it. So I tell Ant about this and he said that we'll return the top and get my money back.
Keep in mind that I had never dealt with his "friend." I asked Ant if his "friend" posted on S2ki or if I can get his "friend's" number. Ant told me the guy doesn't go onto S2ki and Ant said he'd take care of getting my money back. I wait throughout the entire month of June and keep getting from Ant that Ant has tried to call the guy numerous times and left messages but the guy hasn't responded back. I even asked Ant where the guy lived and all Ant would give me was that he lived somewhere in Downey.
So then I get from Ant that the guy is outta town and won't be back until July 16th. Ant had told me that this guy owes Ant $1400 too so it looks like we're both in the same predicament. Ant told me we can both go to his house and ask him about our money when his "friend" gets back. That week comes and towards the end of the week, I call Ant again asking him what is going on. Ant tells me he called the guy and talked to his mom. His mom told Ant that the guy was in some sort of legal trouble. Then, Ant calls me back a little bit later and tells me he talked to the guys sister and that the guy is hiding from the law or something. So, I ask Ant for the guy's number AGAIN. Then Ant tells me he talked to the guy and that the guy will not give me back the money because he said the top was in working condition. So now Ant tells me that we'll take it to small claims court and get this guy. Ant FINALLY gives me the guys number so I call him.
The guy immediately tells me that he is recording our conversation to which I agree upon. This guy's name is Mike, and he proceeds to tell me that Ant and him WERE homies too once upon a time...And that he had sold the top to ANT for only $500! He had also thrown in a few other items from his wrecked car. But after receiving many harrassing and threatening phone calls from Ant, and after Ant had told him that he had retained a lawyer for this, Mike was fed up. Mike then tells me that he has pictures and proof that the top was still working when he sold it to ANT. Also, that he did not owe Ant ANY money at all. So, I call Ant back about this to confront him. I asked Ant WHO was selling the top. He then tells me that it was another friend. After trying to shift blame again, he asks me what I want to do. I tell him that I feel that it is his responsibility and that I should get the money back from him(Ant). He agrees and asks me for a week to get the money back. I'm thinking this thing is finally resolved....Now this was towards the end of July
A week later, I called Ant asking him when he could get me the money. He texts me back and tells me it hasn't been a week and blah blah blah. Come to find out, he's telling a mutual friend of ours how he's pissed off about this because of all the things he's done for me and doesn't want to speak to me anymore. A week later(we're into August now) I get $300 from our mutual friend which came from Ant. I'm thinking, cool he just needs time to come up with $800($500 remaining now) so I'm ok with that. About a week ago, I come across a posting about someone needing just the softop material with the glass(no frame, motor, etc.) So I PM Ant telling him about this so that maybe Ant can sell that to the guy and recoup some of his money.
With that, I get a nasty reply back saying that he did make money off of me on that transaction and that the top wasnt his, but Mikes and that he will not be taking any more responsibility for all of this. That I had made money off of him blah blah blah. I replied to him that I KNEW that he had made money off of me on the top. That, I didn't have as much of a problem with compared to the fact that the top was useless!! We PM back and forth about this whole thing. I keep trying to reitirate the fact to him that I dealt with HIM only throughout this whole process and not Mike. But, now he is washing his hands free of this whole transaction.
It is sad because Ant had helped me out a lot and I had considered him a very close friend. That fact is undeniable. He was one of my groomsmen at my recent wedding, let me use his place for our engagement party, worked on my car. NOW, he has brought it to my attention that he did all these things for me free of charge and that he was only making money off of me because I had made money off of him?? That's another story in itself. Again Ant, I had no problem with you making money off of me. My problem is that you had lied to me throughout this whole process and it is YOU who should be responsible for the top. It doesn't matter if Mike sold it to you or not, it was only YOU who I had dealt with. There's no need to threaten me. We're not in High School anymore. Just do the right thing. Your reputation on here seemed to be pretty good. But, after this, sadly our friendship and any business relationships will end. Not sure why you are so upset over this thing. It is me, if anyone, that should be upset. But, I wasn't until you started bringing up all those past things you had done for me and how you want to settle things at your house and so on and so forth....
What do you guys think should be done??
. Hope everything works out.
