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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Im interested in the ASM sway bars. Cusious to see is anyone has more information about the size and stiffness.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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There is an official sway bar thread, all the info is there.

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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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The ASM front sway bar is 31.8 in diameter and 3.7mm wall thickness.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 11:37 PM
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Hey im just wondering what sway bars will do to an S? will it make the car oversteer or understeer more??
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RevvHii,Nov 21 2008, 12:37 AM
Hey im just wondering what sway bars will do to an S? will it make the car oversteer or understeer more??
A bigger front sway bar will reduce oversteer.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RevvHii,Nov 21 2008, 12:37 AM
Hey im just wondering what sway bars will do to an S? will it make the car oversteer or understeer more??
Well I don't think its as easy as saying will it "oversteer or understeer more". I haven't read up on sway bars in quite a while, but from what I remember, ideally a sway bar attempts to make the car resist twisting from side to side - e.g. in corners. Typically, on a car like the S2 that is already pretty ridged and has a good chasis, running a bigger sway bar in the front will make it understeer more. You should really read up on vehicle dynamics and things like weight transfer and such, because the more you understand that stuff, the more all of this will make sense.

I can try to explain but may fail in the process, so anyone willing to correct me is more than appreciated. Ideally, like in a race car for instance, sway bars are used to even out what is known as the "roll couple distribution", front to back. If a car tended to oversteer a lot, most probably the car would be set up with a larger front bar to cause more of the weight to transfer to the outside front tire in a corner. The back of the car is already beyond its maximum grip level, and the front isn't yet, so that's why we have the oversteer.

By inducing more weight transfer in the front because of a bigger sway bar, theoretically you're lowering the maximum cornering force the front can handle in a corner, but you're making the cornering abilities of the front and rear more equal, so in the end it should make the car handle better. Hope that helps some.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Dixi,Nov 21 2008, 12:32 PM
Well I don't think its as easy as saying will it "oversteer or understeer more". I haven't read up on sway bars in quite a while, but from what I remember, ideally a sway bar attempts to make the car resist twisting from side to side - e.g. in corners. Typically, on a car like the S2 that is already pretty ridged and has a good chasis, running a bigger sway bar in the front will make it understeer more. You should really read up on vehicle dynamics and things like weight transfer and such, because the more you understand that stuff, the more all of this will make sense.

I can try to explain but may fail in the process, so anyone willing to correct me is more than appreciated. Ideally, like in a race car for instance, sway bars are used to even out what is known as the "roll couple distribution", front to back. If a car tended to oversteer a lot, most probably the car would be set up with a larger front bar to cause more of the weight to transfer to the outside front tire in a corner. The back of the car is already beyond its maximum grip level, and the front isn't yet, so that's why we have the oversteer.

By inducing more weight transfer in the front because of a bigger sway bar, theoretically you're lowering the maximum cornering force the front can handle in a corner, but you're making the cornering abilities of the front and rear more equal, so in the end it should make the car handle better. Hope that helps some.
Yes, that is a more accurate answer, but if you already had to ask a question like what a bigger front sway bar would do on an S2000, the simplest answer would be that it reduces oversteer, which is also the same conclusion as your explanation; with fewer words.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GoTuningTommy,Nov 21 2008, 12:41 PM
Yes, that is a more accurate answer, but if you already had to ask a question like what a bigger front sway bar would do on an S2000, the simplest answer would be that it reduces oversteer, which is also the same conclusion as your explanation; with fewer words.
Lol yeah I tend to digress a lot . . . thanks for your concise answer
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixi,Nov 21 2008, 02:38 PM
Lol yeah I tend to digress a lot . . . thanks for your concise answer
Doesn't seem like a digression to me. Addressed the point perfectly.
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