Anyone want to trade inline intercoolers?
I don't think anyone has ever answered my question(not posed in here). I wholeheartedly agree that blacked-out > bling, however, I can't help but wonder if the paint reducing cooling in the slightest.
Originally Posted by FF2Skip,Sep 10 2007, 11:04 AM
I don't think anyone has ever answered my question(not posed in here). I wholeheartedly agree that blacked-out > bling, however, I can't help but wonder if the paint reducing cooling in the slightest.
Originally Posted by AP1_S2k,Sep 10 2007, 11:12 AM
I saw a thread in the FI forum a while back debating this. A member dynoed his car the painted the front half flat black and redynoed and I belive the lsot was very very minimal (like 1-3whp) but he then had it acid dipped to strip it and had a High temp flat black coating (like jethot for manifolds) and he picked up like 5whp over his original dyno 
Originally Posted by AP1_S2k,Sep 10 2007, 12:12 PM
I saw a thread in the FI forum a while back debating this. A member dynoed his car the painted the front half flat black and redynoed and I belive the lsot was very very minimal (like 1-3whp) but he then had it acid dipped to strip it and had a High temp flat black coating (like jethot for manifolds) and he picked up like 5whp over his original dyno 

As Dylan mentioned, dyno numbers don't mean much when compared to the real world(to me at least- I've been down that road before). Again, the difference may be negligible, but I can't help but think there is some difference.
In the case of intercoolers, the measurement may have to be on the dyno because the job of the IC is to cool incoming air. More air coming in on a non-learning ECU means leaner, which in turn means more power.
Originally Posted by FF2Skip,Sep 10 2007, 12:18 PM
Thanks for the info. 
As Dylan mentioned, dyno numbers don't mean much when compared to the real world(to me at least- I've been down that road before). Again, the difference may be negligible, but I can't help but think there is some difference.
In the case of intercoolers, the measurement may have to be on the dyno because the job of the IC is to cool incoming air. More air coming in on a non-learning ECU means leaner, which in turn means more power.

As Dylan mentioned, dyno numbers don't mean much when compared to the real world(to me at least- I've been down that road before). Again, the difference may be negligible, but I can't help but think there is some difference.
In the case of intercoolers, the measurement may have to be on the dyno because the job of the IC is to cool incoming air. More air coming in on a non-learning ECU means leaner, which in turn means more power.
Originally Posted by AP1_S2k,Sep 10 2007, 01:05 PM
True, I was jsut stating what i read. I agree 100% about dynos. But I really think that having a heat coat put on it could help but I really dunno.
Hot air from the turbo flows through tubes inside the intercooler. The 'turbo' air transfers heat to the tubes, warming the tubes and cooling the 'turbo' air. Outside air (or water) passes over the tubes and between fins that are attached to the tubes. Heat is transferred from the hot tubes and fins to the cool outside air. This heats the outside air while cooling the tubes. (if this makes any sense, I tried to describe it the best I could.
)That's pretty much how an intercooler works (to my knowledge). So when you're painting it, you're reducing the cool air flow and/or clogging up the fins that supply cool outside air to the tubes. And in return reducing the intercoolers efficiency. Maybe not much on back to back runs on a dyno. But on the street after awhile, it could make a huge difference.
Can't a dyno vary at least 5whp on different days? (Air temperature, density, humidity, moon phase, or whatever?) I'd take the guy from the FI forum's results for a grain of salt unless his method is repeatable and consistent without variance in other factors which can be beyond control.
We're talking a very thin coat of paint here, unless the guy clogged the area between the fins.
We're talking a very thin coat of paint here, unless the guy clogged the area between the fins.
Originally Posted by e3opian,Sep 10 2007, 02:00 PM
Can't a dyno vary at least 5whp on different days? (Air temperature, density, humidity, moon phase, or whatever?) I'd take the guy from the FI forum's results for a grain of salt unless his method is repeatable and consistent without variance in other factors which can be beyond control.
We're talking a very thin coat of paint here, unless the guy clogged the area between the fins.
We're talking a very thin coat of paint here, unless the guy clogged the area between the fins.







