Hey guys, I have a simple question. Will a Safety21/Cusco bar pass tech at these tracks? I am very well aware of the negligible safety increase of these bars, but to be frank, I am just trying to pass tech.
It is very disappointing that Summit and NJMP are now going to require roll bars in our cars. I would say screw tracking, but honestly I love it too much. Unfortunately, I daily drive my S as well, so I need a bar that is minimally intrusive, and the Cusco/Safety21 fits the bill.

Thanks for your input.

-Charlie

 

The Summit Point BSR FATT guys were discussing roll bars for the S and asked me about my Hard Dog, its thickness, SCCA acceptance, etc. They mentioned they are researching the Safety21/Cusco bar but they haven't made a decision. It's possible they may not accept it next year. As soon as I hear something I'll post it.

 

If you have a hardtop, I serously doubt anyone will question your rollbar.... which ever roll bar that may be.

 

I can't help but wonder out loud if they do NOT realize that the S's "A" pillar is also designed to support the weight of the S in a roll over. I hope that they are NOT making this decision by confusing our roll hoops with the lame ones in other cars (like the Mini convertable IMHO).

I wish I could remember where I saw the video of Honda's roll over test of the S2000 at their crash test facility in Japan. They rolled an S five times and the "A" pillar and hoops protected the crash test dummy

 

If Honda thought a larger roll bar was necessary, wouldn't they have put one on the CR?

 

I think I may have irritated some in a previous thread. The idea that adding a aftermarket bar without checking its actual usefulness in a rollover in relation to a person's ( wearing racing harnesses sitting bolt upright) head, above or below the bar, is not true safety enforcement.

Nor is the attitude " throw a hardtop on it and they won't check"

Matt, I agree our cars are probably stronger in a roll over than some hardtop cars. But I think the rash of people in the trees has them worried about indirect liabilty so an aftermarket rollbar it is.

I am not willing to cut up my car to install an aftermarket rollbar only to have my head above it (because of the way I sit in the car) just as it was with the stock hoops.

I am looking for a dedicated fatt/track car.

 

So what happens when you go into a tire barrier backwards? Honestly, i dont know why you would WANT to be on track without a bar. Its really not worth the risk.

 

It doesn't matter if you have a rollbar or not. A rollbar will not keep you safe from all impacts regardless of how high or low your head is in relation to a stupid broomstick test. There are other factors to consider if you want to truly be "safer."

 

I still do not get how the broomstick test or something like it is stupid.

If you are seated in the car with racing harnesses on that have you sitting straight up, and your head is above the rollover protection, how are you protected?

Your strapped in tight, how do you move down and away from the roof line (or the ground in an open car) in the event of a rollover or crash?

And if you cannot move down and away, are you not setting yourself up for a shot to the head or neck?

Please help me understand how this is not the case or are people just putting this fact out of their minds and hoping it never happens.

 

Here, I quoted it so you can read it again.