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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jtpassat,Feb 18 2008, 09:42 AM
if I remember correctly it was something to do with tricking the computer to think it still has the same injectors but when it fires off, it also causes the second rail to dump fuel as well.
Why is that better than bigger injectors? I just don't know so I am asking.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Cubs2k,Feb 18 2008, 10:14 AM
So it will pas OBD II?
What about all the black smoke coming out the back???
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Legal Bill,Feb 18 2008, 11:28 AM
Why is that better than bigger injectors? I just don't know so I am asking.
i believe the emanage isn't that great at handle larger injectors, which could potentially cause a rough idle and cause the engine to not be smooth at low rpms

This secondary fuel apparently makes it feel 'factory'
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Legal Bill,Feb 18 2008, 11:29 AM
What about all the black smoke coming out the back???
with an AEM, the OBDII scanner will read "not ready"

using the emanage with the second rail would allow you to remain obd II compliant. i.e. you can still read codes and the second fuel rail will not throw any codes..

however, i think one would still need to use a cat for inspection..
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Doug, thanks for posting this information. When you get a chance, can you or Scott confirm devs' explanation about the fuel rails? Also, will the new set-up pass an inspection? Will the exhaust gasses cause a problem?
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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I don't know the exact details of Doug's system, but from what I can tell, it should pass with no problems. As I understand it, if you own a car with OBDII in MA, you are no longer required to run your car on a chassis dyno and a sniffer to pass emissions. When it's time to have your full emissions check, they just plug their diagnostic tool into your OBDII port and make sure it tells them that everything is OK. With both Doug's old and new systems, the stock ECU is left in place while another computer intercepts signals to control the injectors/etc. This is also the way the Greddy turbo kit passes emissions, it just uses the Emanage Ultimate in addition to the stock ECU. When the tech plugs his tool into the port everything is just peachy.
Although I'm pretty sure the part about Doug's car smoking was a joke... even if it was smoking, as long as it doesn't do it while the inspection tech is checking your codes it wouldn't affect you one bit in your pursiut to get a sticker. Same goes with a cat. If your car isn't throwing a code because you've implemented a sparkplug anti-fouler or something else to fool the ECU, the tech will never know unless he smells it or visually checks it.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by elmmx5,Feb 18 2008, 12:35 PM
I don't know the exact details of Doug's system, but from what I can tell, it should pass with no problems. As I understand it, if you own a car with OBDII in MA, you are no longer required to run your car on a chassis dyno and a sniffer to pass emissions. When it's time to have your full emissions check, they just plug their diagnostic tool into your OBDII port and make sure it tells them that everything is OK. With both Doug's old and new systems, the stock ECU is left in place while another computer intercepts signals to control the injectors/etc. This is also the way the Greddy turbo kit passes emissions, it just uses the Emanage Ultimate in addition to the stock ECU. When the tech plugs his tool into the port everything is just peachy.
Although I'm pretty sure the part about Doug's car smoking was a joke... even if it was smoking, as long as it doesn't do it while the inspection tech is checking your codes it wouldn't affect you one bit in your pursiut to get a sticker. Same goes with a cat. If your car isn't throwing a code because you've implemented a sparkplug anti-fouler or something else to fool the ECU, the tech will never know unless he smells it or visually checks it.
Thanks Erick. I didn't realize the exhaust sniffer was no longer used on cars with OBDII. I assume if you are caught having tampered with the system, there is a seperate fine?
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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There is a huge fine for removing your catalytic converter (although I've never actually heard of a case in which it was actually levied). I'm not sure what the rules are when it comes to the ECU. The GReddy kit has CARB's full blessing, so I don't imagine any rules are overly stringent.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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The fine for removing the cat in MA is only $50.

Out in Cali it is steep though!
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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07' I passed in CT with a test pipe. All they did was had my car idle for about 1 minute and hooked up to my OBII and scanned. Nothing showed so they passed me. Doug should have nothing to worry about.
I made sure to call ahead and ask what they did for an inspection, they don't look under the car anymore nor do they open the hood.
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