:D
here's the start
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=297808
my boss felt we should grant one more chance -
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=297808
my boss felt we should grant one more chance -
I'll make a guess. My guess is that the employee who was the source of much aggravation has done herself in.
Boards have been quiet. Is everyone working while at work?
Edit: you beat me with your second post, I was still typing.
Is there a prize for a correct guess?
Wow... that sounds like a horrible place to work. You can't drink or blow off seminars? If I worked there I'd have no fun at all like I do now when my company sends me to places like Vegas.
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I thought this was pretty universal. Whenever the schedule for the last day of a seminar reads something like, "Open Workshop" it's really code for, "Go out and enjoy the pool or something"
a little little to the party but.
unfortunately I think it will always be a double standard in the world of "exempt" employees, if you are percieved as a productive worker to the "right people", things like blowing off the "open workshop" could be as eric put's it universal. or showing up perpetually 15 min late be fine (as long as you weren't overall shorting the company hours).
Clearly the same actions for a worker not percieved as productive, will be used as grounds for termination. I think however that this double standard basically allows employers to "reprimand" for un-productivity in an evironment where productivity is not tallied up in terms of wigets assembled. I don't know what type of work the woman in question performs but as a design engineer, I need freedom to be perhaps unproductive on a 1 or 2 day scale but average out my productivity over a larger scale, and this grey area becomes the judgement call of management.
Steve's lack of support from his boss tells me, they either don't agree she is a problem,and are playing the "I agree but but can't because....." game with steve (pussies for not telling him so), or do agree but aren't willing to take the right action (fear of .....).
I suppose it's resolved itself now, but unless they specifically said "steve, we think she sux too, and will be documenting issues XYZ so we can terminate her without a lawsuit" you need to have a talk with them about what value they put on your judgement of your workers"
oh by the way are we paying you guys on time yet
unfortunately I think it will always be a double standard in the world of "exempt" employees, if you are percieved as a productive worker to the "right people", things like blowing off the "open workshop" could be as eric put's it universal. or showing up perpetually 15 min late be fine (as long as you weren't overall shorting the company hours).
Clearly the same actions for a worker not percieved as productive, will be used as grounds for termination. I think however that this double standard basically allows employers to "reprimand" for un-productivity in an evironment where productivity is not tallied up in terms of wigets assembled. I don't know what type of work the woman in question performs but as a design engineer, I need freedom to be perhaps unproductive on a 1 or 2 day scale but average out my productivity over a larger scale, and this grey area becomes the judgement call of management.
Steve's lack of support from his boss tells me, they either don't agree she is a problem,and are playing the "I agree but but can't because....." game with steve (pussies for not telling him so), or do agree but aren't willing to take the right action (fear of .....).
I suppose it's resolved itself now, but unless they specifically said "steve, we think she sux too, and will be documenting issues XYZ so we can terminate her without a lawsuit" you need to have a talk with them about what value they put on your judgement of your workers"
oh by the way are we paying you guys on time yet



will hang themselves
damn no....

