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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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Oh you can bet it will cost a pretty penny so that someone's pockets
get lined.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Jul 16 2008, 11:10 AM
We have a local gas station supplying E-85 at $3.89 per galloin.
If I were buying a Titan today, I would select the E-85 Version.

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What would be involved in converting over my gas engine to an E-85 version?
I have no idea what has to be changed, but even if it only cost you a dollar to do it, it wouldn't be worth it. Any savings earned by buying the cheaper e-85 fuel are more than offset by the lower mileage you'll get in a Titan than you typically get with regular gas.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Jul 16 2008, 11:10 AM
We have a local gas station supplying E-85 at $3.89 per galloin.
If I were buying a Titan today, I would select the E-85 Version.

So- to the brain trust...
What would be involved in converting over my gas engine to an E-85 version?
You can bet it'll be expensive. Ethanol is lightly corrosive, absorbs moisture, and is electrically conductive. You would need full stainless steel tank/lines/fuel rails/filter to prevent them from rusting due to the moisture and corrosion. You'd need to remove all rubber and plastic fittings that would normally be fine with regular gasoline. You'd need a new special fuel pump that won't short out from the conductivity of E85. And probably a new engine computer to handle it all.

And it won't pay off at that price, because 1 gallon of E85 has much less energy than 1 gallon of gas, so you'll burn a lot more of it. You can bet your MPG will drop 25-30% on E85 because of that.

So, 1.25 x $3.89/gallon is equivalent to paying $4.86 a gallon for regular E10. Plus what you spent converting over.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by elmmx5,Jul 16 2008, 10:19 AM
Any savings earned by buying the cheaper e-85 fuel are more than offset by the lower mileage you'll get in a Titan than you typically get with regular gas.
Ok, say more
- the ethanol gives less miles per galloon because it is weaker?
- when you see a pump that says 10-15% this is the same ethanol they are adding into the gasoline?

The reason I ask is because I have bought my gas from Sam's club for years because of price. As of late though I'm spending a bit more (less than 10
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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[QUOTE=CTMechE,Jul 16 2008, 10:28 AM] because 1 gallon of E85 has much less energy than 1 gallon of gas, so you'll burn a lot more of it.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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[QUOTE=Triple-H,Jul 16 2008, 11:35 AM] Ok, say more
- the ethanol gives less miles per galloon because it is weaker?
- when you see a pump that says 10-15% this is the same ethanol they are adding into the gasoline?

The reason I ask is because I have bought my gas from Sam's club for years because of price. As of late though I'm spending a bit more (less than 10
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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There is a silver lining though... e-85 is ~102 octane. So... if you had a car that was capable of running e-85 you could have it tuned for more horsepower.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by elmmx5,Jul 16 2008, 10:43 AM
There is a silver lining though... e-85 is ~102 octane. So... if you had a car that was capable of running e-85 you could have it tuned for more horsepower.
Aaahhhhhh, it's always a trade off ain't it.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by elmmx5,Jul 16 2008, 10:41 AM
I know that forum well, I'm Quad T, as in Titan Tows Track Toys

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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by elmmx5,Jul 16 2008, 10:43 AM
There is a silver lining though... e-85 is ~102 octane. So... if you had a car that was capable of running e-85 you could have it tuned for more horsepower.
True , but you would need injectors twice the size still not worth it in my opinion .



http://bznotes.wordpress.com/2006/07...l-vs-gasoline/

I like how it says still contributes to globel warming just as much as gas . And it takes more energy to make than it produces ?? thats like trying to run solar power with a light bulb ...lol
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