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Testut 12-21-2004 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by diskoe,Dec 21 2004, 12:03 AM
Skip, you've gotta read this thread. I almost fell out of my chair.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=256515

John,

What an interesting thread. Usually when the talk turns to winter driving the S, XViper will be in the thick of it. I noticed he was right there explaining how it's done. I really disagree with those who say that the S is a good winter driver (even though I drive mine year 'round). Perhaps it's good when the roads are cold but free of deep snow, but if the snow is deep, the S has problems. Still, it's always very entertaining. :p

Triple-H 12-21-2004 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=Testut,Dec 21 2004, 08:40 AM] Perhaps it's good when the roads are cold but free of deep snow, but if the snow is deep, the S has problems. Still, it's always very entertaining.

jguerdat 12-21-2004 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Triple-H,Dec 21 2004, 01:44 PM
There is no substitute for ground clearance, and weight.

Why? So once you start sliding you can't stop? "Enough" weight is relative...

Testut 12-21-2004 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by jguerdat,Dec 21 2004, 03:18 PM
"Enough" weight is relative...

I don't know, Jeff, I weigh more than I should and the car still won't move in deep snow :p

jguerdat 12-22-2004 02:35 AM

You're not surfing it right, then... :egads: (we need a surfer emoticon here)

If you can get a running start, you only need to touch the rear wheels to the ground once in a while to keep going. The fronts will act as rudders... :drive:

Triple-H 12-23-2004 04:17 AM

[QUOTE=jguerdat,Dec 21 2004, 03:18 PM] Why?

jguerdat 12-24-2004 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Triple-H,Dec 23 2004, 09:17 AM
Okay, you take a 2,000 car with snows, and run on the expressway in wet heavy snow. I'll take a 5,000 pound truck on summer tires on the same road and blow your stinking doors off, while not even trying. :p Weight makes for a much more confidence inspired ride in wet and heavy snow, but then how would you know, you don't like trucks...

True enough on all counts but "confidence" is frequently like "conventional wisdom" - it's overrated. Folks buy 4WDs all the time and what do we see in ditches? If you don't match your driving style to conditions, which includes the vehicle and tires, you're simply asking for trouble.

For the record, I've been driving in the snow for 37 years in FWD, RWD, snow tires, all-season tires, the occasional hi-perf tires, small cars virtually all the time except for one Jeep and a minivan and haven't had significant problems in a wide variety of weather conditions, including deep and/or slushy snow. If there was a REAL reason to use AWD/4WD/trucks/SUVs, etc. I'd get one. I just can't justify it for the needs I have...

Triple-H 12-27-2004 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by jguerdat,Dec 24 2004, 01:52 PM
Folks buy 4WDs all the time and what do we see in ditches? If you don't match your driving style to conditions, which includes the vehicle and tires, you're simply asking for trouble.

Why? Easy. Because they think just because they have 4WD and the vehicle accelerates then their crap summer tires are just perfect for winter driving.

:rofl:


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