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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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I just don't know what to say about this. What do you guys think??

Parents: 4th-Grade Girl To Become Boy
Mom Says Youngster Has Male Brain

UPDATED: 12:34 pm EST March 4, 2005

METHUEN, Mass. -- A fourth-grader who was attending a Massachusetts elementary school as a girl before February vacation has returned to school as a boy.

The parents of the 9-year-old child said the youngster was born with the body of a girl, but the brain of a boy.

They have asked that he be referred to and treated as a boy by teachers and other students, and school officials are accommodating the request. The parents have even changed the child's name.

The child's mother told The Eagle-Tribune that the family made the decision after consulting with medical professionals. She said the child is still biologically a girl.

The mother has requested that the family not be identified to protect the child.

School Superintendent C. Phillip Littlefield said there is nothing harmful about the child being in the school.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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how the heck can they have the "brain" of a boy? and that is really messed up of the parents to do that to the kid. the Psychological effects would be worse than their "correcting" his/her sex.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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The crux of the matter for me would be whether this was up to the parents or the kid. If it was the parents' idea, then I'd have to say it's rather screwed up. If it was the kid's desire, though, then I have no problem with it.

Most people don't realize just how common sex changes are. Each of us has likely met someone who is a transsexual without even knowing it. I have personal friends who underwent sex change operations when they were much younger, and no one knows except for the folks who knew them before the operation. They still live normal lives.

For people who have always felt, from a very young age, that they were supposed to be a member of the other sex, being forced into an undesirable gender role by society is more damaging than just about anything else. So, if this girl wanted to be a boy, then I have zero problems with it. If it was something concocted by the parents, then I'm feeling real sorry for that kid right now.

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Ok, just reread the article, and there was no actual sex change done. For some reason, I thought there was the first time I read it.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Obviously if this was the parents' doing, then it's problematic. But I hope this was initiated by the child.
IMO the article is seriously lacking information for me to form a solid opinion. The parents apparently consulted "medical professionals" which I certainly hope included a psychologist.
If the child was expected to be treated as a boy, it only makes sense they would follow suit with a name change.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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WTF??!? its a 4th grader and u think its normal because he/she made the desicion for itself!?!? sex changes are just wrong to begin with, u gotta be mentaly f*cked up, maybe she likes to play sports and do boy things, that doesn't mean u change her name and start telling people its a boy, wow people are messed up, and u guys agree with them
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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Yes, I wholeheartedly agree if the decision was made by the child. And yes, you do have to be mentally screwed up to get a sex change - mentally screwed up as in having the biological sex of a girl and identifying with the gender of a boy. It's got nothing to do with "liking to do boy/girl things". It goes beyond that.

But I didn't say anything about normal. Certainly, a person who changes their sex won't ever quite be 100% normal. That's true by definition of the word "normal". But I do believe that they turn out happier than they would have had they been forced into gender roles that they don't identify with.

It's fine if you don't agree; most people don't. I wouldn't either if I didn't know some of these people myself.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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"School Superintendent C. Phillip Littlefield said there is nothing harmful about the child being in the school"

right. 4 grade? this girl/boy will be laughed at and made fun of untill he/she graduates from highschool and attends college 3000 miles away

at least send the kid to a different school
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cyber_x,Mar 4 2005, 03:34 PM
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree if the decision was made by the child. And yes, you do have to be mentally screwed up to get a sex change - mentally screwed up as in having the biological sex of a girl and identifying with the gender of a boy. It's got nothing to do with "liking to do boy/girl things". It goes beyond that.

But I didn't say anything about normal. Certainly, a person who changes their sex won't ever quite be 100% normal. That's true by definition of the word "normal". But I do believe that they turn out happier than they would have had they been forced into gender roles that they don't identify with.

It's fine if you don't agree; most people don't. I wouldn't either if I didn't know some of these people myself.
It's interesting how people's opinions are impacted when they meet and speak with people who are in situations they disapprove of. It's impossible for me to know what it's like to struggle with something like being trans - but at least if I speak with someone who's experiencing it, I have a broader perspective.


I also agree that the child might be psychologically better off at a different school - but it's up to adults to provide a safe environment for kids, which means helping children understand things (like this situation) and preventing bullying.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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these condition can occur

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those that take biology know what im talking about

sometimes the genetic make up of an individual is soo fukked up that they might end up as a freak with a female body and male hormones...
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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whoa crazy
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