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Old May 13, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Good article, pros and cons of the Styrker Vehicle. There a big force here based in WA.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070513/ap_on_...Hn7ryz8yyas0NUE

I'm a big fan of the bradley's or something more heavily armored in hot situations against RPG's, heavy machine guns and road side bombs. Crazy how some road side bombs can even rip an Abrams up

We still need to stick with our heavy armor in the right situations.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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well, mobility is always going to come at the expense of protection. There's always going to be a situation where either a Bradley or a Stryker will be better.

I don't know if they'll ever really be able to defeat a roadside bomb, because many of them are packed with LOTS of explosive. Even if they can make the armor strong enough, the energy still has to be dissipated, sending the vehicle into the air.

also, the Stryker has a 25mm machine gun/cannon, not a 105mm one.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by steven975,May 13 2007, 05:24 PM
well, mobility is always going to come at the expense of protection. There's always going to be a situation where either a Bradley or a Stryker will be better.

I don't know if they'll ever really be able to defeat a roadside bomb, because many of them are packed with LOTS of explosive. Even if they can make the armor strong enough, the energy still has to be dissipated, sending the vehicle into the air.

also, the Stryker has a 25mm machine gun/cannon, not a 105mm one.
I saw that and was like 105mm damn! Must be a special version
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Old May 13, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Heavy armor is much more vulnerable in urban warfare. Even an Abrams with the TUSK kit can still be disabled by a well-placed rpg. A lot of IEDs are 155mm arty shells daisy-chained together which is going to take out pretty much any armor you roll in there, especially Bradleys and Strykers. The aluminum hull on the Bradley does not stand up to explosives very well at all.

EFPs (Explosively Formed Pentrators)and shaped charges are the biggest problem now. The new MRAPs are well-suited to survive traditional high explosive IEDs and mines but EFPs will most likely still achieve some level of penetration.

Oh and most strykers dont usually carry dont more than a .50 cal or a MK19.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nwlax23,May 13 2007, 07:37 PM
Heavy armor is much more vulnerable in urban warfare. Even an Abrams with the TUSK kit can still be disabled by a well-placed rpg. A lot of IEDs are 155mm arty shells daisy-chained together which is going to take out pretty much any armor you roll in there, especially Bradleys and Strykers. The aluminum hull on the Bradley does not stand up to explosives very well at all.

EFPs (Explosively Formed Pentrators)and shaped charges are the biggest problem now. The new MRAPs are well-suited to survive traditional high explosive IEDs and mines but EFPs will most likely still achieve some level of penetration.

Oh and most strykers dont usually carry dont more than a .50 cal or a MK19.
In a firefight with RPGs all over, I would feel a lil more comfy in an M1 on the street vs a Styrker. Same effect, Stryker vs Armored Humvee.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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Oh I'd much rather be in an Abrams too. An RPG has no chance of a kill, but a lucky shot can immobilize one...
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the term RPG has been kind of generalized, but if you mean to say the traditional shoulder-launched rocket, then, yea, an Abrams is a pretty safe place.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by steven975,May 13 2007, 09:11 PM
the term RPG has been kind of generalized, but if you mean to say the traditional shoulder-launched rocket, then, yea, an Abrams is a pretty safe place.
Yeh rocket propelled grenade. Seems like every one and their mom we fight always has some.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by steven975,May 13 2007, 08:11 PM
the term RPG has been kind of generalized, but if you mean to say the traditional shoulder-launched rocket, then, yea, an Abrams is a pretty safe place.
I mean an RPG-7
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Old May 14, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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