Cigarette fires.
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Cigarette fires.
Not sure how else a blaze can start on a living room sofa other than a lit cigarette.... supposedly the house these people were renting was built incorrectly. I would have to guess the mom would still be alive if someone hadn't started the fire in the first place. Only in america.
UPPER ALLEN TWP.
Owners released from fatal-fire suit
Sunday, November 26, 2006
BY MATT MILLER
Of Our Carlisle Bureau
CARLISLE - A Cumberland County judge has freed two Mechanicsburg landlords from a lawsuit over a 2002 fire that killed one person and injured five others at a town house in Upper Allen Twp.
President Judge Edgar B. Bayley's ruling in favor of Ronald and Laura Gabriel means that only the builder of the house, Classic Communities Corp. of Lebanon, remains a defendant in the case.
In a decision last week, Bayley concluded the Gabriels couldn't be held legally liable for alleged construction defects of the town house at 2805 Sunset Court.
Justin, Matthew and Christopher Varner claim in their suit that building code deficiencies allowed the Jan. 6, 2002, blaze to spread so rapidly that their relative, Betty Bowen, 47, was killed when flames trapped her inside.
Justin and Matthew Varner and Danielle Canning suffered burns, according to the suit they filed in 2003. Christopher Varner escaped unhurt but sought damages for the trauma of seeing Bowen, his mother, die.
The Varners and Canning argued that the Gabriels and Classic Communities were liable for the death and the injuries because the town house, built in 1997, was constructed without adequate fire retardant materials and had other safety shortcomings.
State police concluded the fire erupted around 6:30 a.m. on a living room sofa. No cause for the blaze was determined.
According to court filings, the Gabriels bought the town house from Classic Communities and lived in it for four years before renting it to Bowen. It was their only rental property, and the Gabriels had no building construction background, records state.
In his ruling, Bayley said Bowen never complained to the Gabriels about the condition of the property, nor did the couple inspect it while Bowen was living there.
"There is no evidence that the Gabriels knew of these alleged [building code] violations," the judge said.
The Gabriels had no legal duty to discover such violations if they did exist, he concluded, adding that such expertise usually is "beyond the realm of common knowledge and experience of an owner/landlord."
Owners released from fatal-fire suit
Sunday, November 26, 2006
BY MATT MILLER
Of Our Carlisle Bureau
CARLISLE - A Cumberland County judge has freed two Mechanicsburg landlords from a lawsuit over a 2002 fire that killed one person and injured five others at a town house in Upper Allen Twp.
President Judge Edgar B. Bayley's ruling in favor of Ronald and Laura Gabriel means that only the builder of the house, Classic Communities Corp. of Lebanon, remains a defendant in the case.
In a decision last week, Bayley concluded the Gabriels couldn't be held legally liable for alleged construction defects of the town house at 2805 Sunset Court.
Justin, Matthew and Christopher Varner claim in their suit that building code deficiencies allowed the Jan. 6, 2002, blaze to spread so rapidly that their relative, Betty Bowen, 47, was killed when flames trapped her inside.
Justin and Matthew Varner and Danielle Canning suffered burns, according to the suit they filed in 2003. Christopher Varner escaped unhurt but sought damages for the trauma of seeing Bowen, his mother, die.
The Varners and Canning argued that the Gabriels and Classic Communities were liable for the death and the injuries because the town house, built in 1997, was constructed without adequate fire retardant materials and had other safety shortcomings.
State police concluded the fire erupted around 6:30 a.m. on a living room sofa. No cause for the blaze was determined.
According to court filings, the Gabriels bought the town house from Classic Communities and lived in it for four years before renting it to Bowen. It was their only rental property, and the Gabriels had no building construction background, records state.
In his ruling, Bayley said Bowen never complained to the Gabriels about the condition of the property, nor did the couple inspect it while Bowen was living there.
"There is no evidence that the Gabriels knew of these alleged [building code] violations," the judge said.
The Gabriels had no legal duty to discover such violations if they did exist, he concluded, adding that such expertise usually is "beyond the realm of common knowledge and experience of an owner/landlord."
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Different fire....
It is hard to feel sorry for people sometimes.....
This girl was on TV last night. Typical white trashy girl.....4 kids, single mom with some kind of stupid pierced eyebrow..... .I am sure she had no insurance...... cigarettes > insurance.
[QUOTE]Three adults and two children were inside the home in the 3200 block of Oakland Road when the fire began around 8:30 a.m., but everyone escaped without injury.
It is hard to feel sorry for people sometimes.....
This girl was on TV last night. Typical white trashy girl.....4 kids, single mom with some kind of stupid pierced eyebrow..... .I am sure she had no insurance...... cigarettes > insurance.
[QUOTE]Three adults and two children were inside the home in the 3200 block of Oakland Road when the fire began around 8:30 a.m., but everyone escaped without injury.
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Originally Posted by Scot,Dec 5 2006, 05:41 AM
Her biggest concern seemed to be X-mas, to the point that it almost seemed staged.....she kept saying it over and over and over....
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That's scary and crazy. I was once sued for sexual harrassment by a woman I had never even seen, talked to on the phone, emailed or had any personal contact with at all. The court didn't throw it out even after her sister testified that she was just trying to make a big "score." It took two years and going to federal court to get it thrown out.
Why me? I had given a sexual harrassment seminar to all of the managers of the large national retail company we worked for a few months eariler. The state of AZ. took it that I must have "known" something was going on to have presented the seminar. Her mamnager was not guilty either.
Why me? I had given a sexual harrassment seminar to all of the managers of the large national retail company we worked for a few months eariler. The state of AZ. took it that I must have "known" something was going on to have presented the seminar. Her mamnager was not guilty either.
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Originally Posted by VTEC_Junkie,Dec 5 2006, 06:10 PM
she just wants people to feel bad enough for her to offer her donations and charity.
Get a frikkin' life, people. A family's house burned down, and a person died. Since when is that the cue to start bashing on people for imaginary offenses? The fire could have been started by a heating pad, electric blanket, faulty wiring, whatever. The house wasn't built to code and as a result contributed to a person's death, and all you people can do is bitch and whine about imaginary circumstances? Oh yeah, that's right - apparently she was "white trash." Sorry, I must have forgotten "white trash" deserve whatever happens to them, as they aren't fit to live :/
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Originally Posted by Norby,Dec 6 2006, 07:57 PM
CG
What does your sexual harassment suit have to do with the fire?
Just curious
What does your sexual harassment suit have to do with the fire?
Just curious
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Originally Posted by no_really,Dec 6 2006, 05:51 PM
yes, because we all know the person being interviewed is usually the one that puts together the final broadcast :/
Get a frikkin' life, people. A family's house burned down, and a person died. Since when is that the cue to start bashing on people for imaginary offenses? The fire could have been started by a heating pad, electric blanket, faulty wiring, whatever. The house wasn't built to code and as a result contributed to a person's death, and all you people can do is bitch and whine about imaginary circumstances? Oh yeah, that's right - apparently she was "white trash." Sorry, I must have forgotten "white trash" deserve whatever happens to them, as they aren't fit to live :/
Get a frikkin' life, people. A family's house burned down, and a person died. Since when is that the cue to start bashing on people for imaginary offenses? The fire could have been started by a heating pad, electric blanket, faulty wiring, whatever. The house wasn't built to code and as a result contributed to a person's death, and all you people can do is bitch and whine about imaginary circumstances? Oh yeah, that's right - apparently she was "white trash." Sorry, I must have forgotten "white trash" deserve whatever happens to them, as they aren't fit to live :/
read scot's original post carefully, and read his rebuttal to the post you've made. his rebuttal pretty much states everything i was gonna say in response to your post.