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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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here you go
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Maybe I'm in one of the exception states then (WA). I'm an engineer but I never bothered to do the American FE exam when I relocated because it wasn't a requirement here.

What's with the whole "audio engineer" thing though? I was at CES this year and I have many business cards from speaker salesmen and music producers who call themselves engineers.

Oh, there's another thing the degree was needed for -- if you ever want to work abroad, you MUST have credentials. No way I would've gotten a work visa without it.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by suvh8r,Jul 2 2010, 08:12 AM
Please, this wins the stupid post of the day award.

You are not your degree, you are what you do with it.

There are plenty of people who didn't go to college that make a LOT more money than you.

Live life, hug your children, and enjoy every second of it. Don't fool yourself into thinking that a piece of paper makes you someone other than who you really are.
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Obviously you are not your degree, but guess what? A LOT of jobs depend on you having a degree in the first place. Gone are the days where HS education is all you need to get anywhere in life. YES there are obviously exceptions, but that's not as a whole.

In my field, there are no exceptions. You need a degree, simple as that.


I'm guessing your upset about my street smart comment...oh well, in general that's what I've found. Most people who brag about being street smart couldn't get past college and say that to feel better. Again, there are exceptions...
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyCB,Jul 2 2010, 11:31 AM
I'm pretty sure there was a joke along these lines: "Saying you're street smart is just nicer way of saying you're stupid."
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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I tend to see those who are street smart can also be book smart if they dedicate their time into studying. Whereas book smart is a one way street.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by OverBooster,Jul 2 2010, 07:23 AM
That REALLY may not have been the best example. A person generally obtains a Ph.D. is such a field as entomology with the goal of research and contributing to science or teaching.

I do not think your friend ever thought, "Hey!! Getting a doctorate in the study of insects is my path to great riches". Unless of course he inadvertently discovered a cure for cancer.
No, my point was that my friend pursued eight years of higher education with no thought of what he was going to do with that hard earned knowledge. He simply liked biology and bugs and never considered what he would do with his life. He got his doctorate and left the academic "home" he'd become accustomed to. The first job he landed was programming software for an insurance company. And that is where he remains to this day. There was never any plan of any sort. Not money. Not professional achievement. Not making a contribution to society. Nothing! He simply went from one comfortable environment to another. And there he sits to this day. It seems a huge waste of an expensive education to me. And to top it off, even though he's a super nice guy, he's never married. Women shy away from his underachiever resume and his awkwardness with people. I think most women need to know there's a plan even if it isn't always executed to perfection.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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those who don't believe in higher education shouldn't get it and take away spots for people who do want it.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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whatever happened to seeing education as it should be seen. not $$$
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by espelirS2K,Jul 2 2010, 10:23 AM
I think it's more general to most top-tier schools. No matter the major.

To answer your statement about business:

If you want to get in to a top-20 post-grad business program you (most of the time) need to have at least graduated with some sort of honors (3.5+) and have at least 2 years experience. There's always going to be exceptions to the rules, but from the amount of research I've done, that's about what they all say.
Top-Tier MBA programs (by that I mean top ~10) look at GPA, but it isn't as important compared to your GMAT and work experience. Look at the admission statistics for Top 10 schools and you can see that the 25th to 75th percentile gpa is rather "low" compared to other grad programs (i.e. Law and Med)

For people in business, strong GMAT + WHERE you worked is extremely important. 2 years experience may be the "minimum" for a top ~10 MBA program IF you worked for a bulge-bracket NY bank (Goldman, Citi, JPM, etc.) or a top end IB boutique, or if you were one of the lucky few to get a job at M/B/B (McKinsey/Bain/BCG) after undergrad. If not, 2 years may not be enough (obviously I'm not saying that ONLY these people are able to get into top MBA after 2 years work exp).

The scope of my comments should be limited to those who went directly to work after a business related undergraduate degree and with a couple years of work experience.
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