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Old May 10, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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A cool pay rate calculator and comparison for airline pilots.

While this is for airline pilot's, I thought that is was a pretty cool idea.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/content/view/132/56/

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Old May 10, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Wow, that is cool! Nice to see Southwest and Continental up top. Although, it doesn't specify what kind of seniority the numbers are based off of.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotKD,May 10 2005, 03:25 PM
Wow, that is cool! Nice to see Southwest and Continental up top. Although, it doesn't specify what kind of seniority the numbers are based off of.
I don't think that seniority is relevant with that chart as it's a pay comparison not a career progression comparison. It looks to be based on year 12 rates (or max. hourly). Obviously, some airlines move faster than others in terms of seat progression. So "what the seat pay" seems to be more apples to apples to me.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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Interesting, I always knew pilots make a huge yearly salary. I have heard before that the average work week for a pilot is 2-3 days a week, is this true? If so does it apply to all pilots? Example - Airline, Cargo, Helicopter?

My career goals have always been to work less make more, maybe I should have joined the military back in the mid 90's. That might have pointed me in the right direction towards becoming a pilot.

Anyone here know the average work week for a pilot?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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If your career goals are to work less make more, the military is not for you. It's more like work more and make less. The military is not bad money in the beginning, but you could eventually make more in the airlines with a better quality of life, IMO. Of course, the chance of furlough/layoffs is there, which does not exist in the military. Even if you can't fly, you're going to have a job and know you'll have a paycheck every 2 weeks until you decide to get out.

Becoming an airline pilot takes a lot of time and $$$ because you have to get your commercial, multi-engine, instrument ratings and eventually an Airline Transport Pilot rating. It could cost upwards of $25,000+ after all is said and done. Then you need to build up flight time before an airline will even hire you. Most regional airlines are hiring with anywhere from 1000-1500 hours of total time and 100-500 hours multi-engine time. You could probably get your private, instrument, commercial/multiengine ratings in about 175-200 hours. How do you get 1000 hours you ask? Flight instruct, but wait, that requires another license which is more $$$. How much money will you make as a flight instructor? About $12-15 an hour. I made less than $20,000 the first year I flight instructed.

Pilots usually go on 3-4 day trips and spend their nights in hotels before coming back to their home base and having 2-3 days off. In the beginning, with low seniority, you'll be on reserve and pretty much get the shit end of the stick when it comes to good trips. Once you get some seniority, you get to bid for the better trips and life becomes good. You're usually contracted for 75-80 hours a month minimum, whether you work it or not. You can make more. The problems are, you can work weekends and holidays and being low on the totum poll means that you probably will, so there are some sacrifices.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotKD,May 12 2005, 04:18 PM
If your career goals are to work less make more, the military is not for you. It's more like work more and make less. The military is not bad money in the beginning, but you could eventually make more in the airlines with a better quality of life, IMO. Of course, the chance of furlough/layoffs is there, which does not exist in the military. Even if you can't fly, you're going to have a job and know you'll have a paycheck every 2 weeks until you decide to get out.

Becoming an airline pilot takes a lot of time and $$$ because you have to get your commercial, multi-engine, instrument ratings and eventually an Airline Transport Pilot rating. It could cost upwards of $25,000+ after all is said and done. Then you need to build up flight time before an airline will even hire you. Most regional airlines are hiring with anywhere from 1000-1500 hours of total time and 100-500 hours multi-engine time. You could probably get your private, instrument, commercial/multiengine ratings in about 175-200 hours. How do you get 1000 hours you ask? Flight instruct, but wait, that requires another license which is more $$$. How much money will you make as a flight instructor? About $12-15 an hour. I made less than $20,000 the first year I flight instructed.

Pilots usually go on 3-4 day trips and spend their nights in hotels before coming back to their home base and having 2-3 days off. In the beginning, with low seniority, you'll be on reserve and pretty much get the shit end of the stick when it comes to good trips. Once you get some seniority, you get to bid for the better trips and life becomes good. You're usually contracted for 75-80 hours a month minimum, whether you work it or not. You can make more. The problems are, you can work weekends and holidays and being low on the totum poll means that you probably will, so there are some sacrifices.
I'm probably too old for the military now. But I almost joined after high school, came oh so close but I didn't like the idea of being owned for 4 years. I do have my regrets now and then, military is a great way to try to get in to flight if you have time to invest. $25K does not sound bad to me, I have lots of friends that spent 50K on college only to get a job working slave hours for mediocre pay in some corporation. I can understand how it takes a lot of hard work and dedication to become a pilot. Once you get halfway through the career though.... thats where the payoff is it looks like. Being contracted 75-80 hours and getting paid whether you work or not sounds great!! I would have no problems with the hotels and stay overs, I like to travel and see different cities.

But sadly I am already in the middle of a career. It's not bad most of the time, I just think I'd be better off in a job with a little more freedom than what I currently have. And two days off a week is not enough for me.

Thanks for the info PilotKD.

One more question, any experience with helicopters? similar career path? or more difficult? Particularly Fire & Rescue.
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Old May 14, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Road Rash,May 13 2005, 10:32 AM
One more question, any experience with helicopters? similar career path? or more difficult? Particularly Fire & Rescue.
No experience with choppers, but from what I hear, they are quite a bit harder to fly and abit more dangerous. I'm not sure what's involved getting a commercial chopper job.
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