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Old May 17, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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good point.
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Old May 18, 2002 | 07:45 AM
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Damn, what little I know.
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Old May 19, 2002 | 03:13 PM
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EPII

There is a scene when Yoda is trying to hold on to the big pole, from dropping on OBi-wan and Anakin.


Man, as a guy not as smart as Yoda myself, I would have just used the force and move them out of the way, instead of trying to move the 50 tons pole away...
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Old May 19, 2002 | 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by carlson
EPII

There is a scene when Yoda is trying to hold on to the big pole, from dropping on OBi-wan and Anakin.


Man, as a guy not as smart as Yoda myself, I would have just used the force and move them out of the way, instead of trying to move the 50 tons pole away...
HAHAHAHAH.. damn... now THAT is a good point! But you gotta admit, Yoda kicks arse in that battle
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Old May 20, 2002 | 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by The Unabageler
In any case, all you end up with is the eternal struggle of good vs. evil and that can be applied to any situation, as that struggle is what separates humans from animals.
Yes, but the application depends on your point of view. Remember, the Palestinians think they are the good guys too. So did the Nazi's and every other side of every other conflict. It's often a long time after the end of a conflict that a consensus of opinion is reached, and usually in favour of the victors.

So good always wins in the end, it just takes a while for evryone to agree that the winners were good.

BTW, I realise that the two examples may not have been the best choice, but I sincerely mean no offence.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 05:01 AM
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I've got to agree with The Unabageler. The American "revolutionaries" really had no unified concept of what the government should be. Most of the early American's, expected George Washington to become king. Fortunately, GW and the founders had a different idea. Forming the US constitution took a while and required much debate. The galactic Republic, the Empire and the British Empire, had the same problem, the worlds/lands they ruled were to far apart, physically and culturally.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by carlson
EPII

There is a scene when Yoda is trying to hold on to the big pole, from dropping on OBi-wan and Anakin.


Man, as a guy not as smart as Yoda myself, I would have just used the force and move them out of the way, instead of trying to move the 50 tons pole away...
Ah, but you're forgetting the cardinal rule learned in Empire Strikes Back: "Size matters not." So perhaps it's easier to stop one object from falling than move two people .
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Old May 20, 2002 | 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by AusS2000


Yes, but the application depends on your point of view. Remember, the Palestinians think they are the good guys too. So did the Nazi's and every other side of every other conflict. It's often a long time after the end of a conflict that a consensus of opinion is reached, and usually in favour of the victors.

So good always wins in the end, it just takes a while for evryone to agree that the winners were good.

BTW, I realise that the two examples may not have been the best choice, but I sincerely mean no offence.
It does not depend on your view. Someone who kills without discretion is evil, that's agreed upon by any humane person in the world. But sometimes politics gets in the way. Talk to many German citizens from WWII era, most found what was going on horrible, but went along to save their own lives. Gentiles who collaborated with Jews were treated as Jews. Talk to many regular palestinians (not the ones on the news, but your "average joe") and they are just as uphalled by violence as anyone else. But you saw what happened when militants found collaborators. They were shot and beaten in the streets and left for dead. This is like the citizens of the Empire not liking what the Emperor does, but going along with it so that they themselves don't get raided by stormtroopers.

So sometimes ideas of good vs. evil are warped by those who exert force on a person. That, however, does not change the character of the struggle.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 09:34 AM
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I think we can all agree that Star Wars is not the end all be all for morality and I think George Lucas is not the "genius" everyone proclaims he is, heck I think the Timothy Zahn novels are best Stars Wars, and I liked ESB and ROJ the two movies he did'nt direct.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 09:40 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Porsche518
[B]I think we can all agree that Star Wars is not the end all be all for morality
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