Eye Twitching
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Originally Posted by Angerman,Mar 1 2010, 04:15 PM
I exercise 3-4x a week ontop of going to College and having a fulltime job. I dont think I can fit anymore exercise in my life. I dont like natural sleep, I wake up constantly and is hard for me to get to sleep. Melatonin is already pretty natural
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Originally Posted by thebig33tuna,Mar 1 2010, 01:17 PM
i was quoting 'fight club', that is not real advice.
. Could of done a little thing at the bottom....- Fightclub
or something like that
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I think you are simply overloading yourself. Try cutting back on exercise, or going to bed two hours early (find other times to study?). For me, reading a book usually puts me out, but studying is different. It may just be that you need much more sleep than you're allowing, but since you're pushing yourself with a full-time job (40+ hours?), college (I'm assuming part time, 10-12 credits or something?), and workouts, it would seem your body has adapted by increasing your "go" hormones (adrenaline, acetylcholine, etc.), maybe even serotonin (which may be linked to your diagnosis and prescription for "depression"), and so a regular sleep cycle has fallen to the wayside.
The eye twitching is definitely related to this. It's like you're on a mild, natural Adderall, hence the twitching in the muscle above your eye. I'm not familiar with the anatomy but I'm assuming the hours you spend awake requires the muscle in that area to remain contracted for extended periods of time, and this itself requires constant stimulation of nerves; it needs to be monitored with a nice flow of NTs, but sometimes you get a little extra.
Just some thoughts. If I were you, I'd swing by Borders and pick up a recommended book. What are you studying?
The eye twitching is definitely related to this. It's like you're on a mild, natural Adderall, hence the twitching in the muscle above your eye. I'm not familiar with the anatomy but I'm assuming the hours you spend awake requires the muscle in that area to remain contracted for extended periods of time, and this itself requires constant stimulation of nerves; it needs to be monitored with a nice flow of NTs, but sometimes you get a little extra.
Just some thoughts. If I were you, I'd swing by Borders and pick up a recommended book. What are you studying?
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Originally Posted by C U AT 9K,Mar 1 2010, 04:01 PM
I think you are simply overloading yourself. Try cutting back on exercise, or going to bed two hours early (find other times to study?). For me, reading a book usually puts me out, but studying is different. It may just be that you need much more sleep than you're allowing, but since you're pushing yourself with a full-time job (40+ hours?), college (I'm assuming part time, 10-12 credits or something?), and workouts, it would seem your body has adapted by increasing your "go" hormones (adrenaline, acetylcholine, etc.), maybe even serotonin (which may be linked to your diagnosis and prescription for "depression"), and so a regular sleep cycle has fallen to the wayside.
The eye twitching is definitely related to this. It's like you're on a mild, natural Adderall, hence the twitching in the muscle above your eye. I'm not familiar with the anatomy but I'm assuming the hours you spend awake requires the muscle in that area to remain contracted for extended periods of time, and this itself requires constant stimulation of nerves; it needs to be monitored with a nice flow of NTs, but sometimes you get a little extra.
Just some thoughts. If I were you, I'd swing by Borders and pick up a recommended book. What are you studying?
The eye twitching is definitely related to this. It's like you're on a mild, natural Adderall, hence the twitching in the muscle above your eye. I'm not familiar with the anatomy but I'm assuming the hours you spend awake requires the muscle in that area to remain contracted for extended periods of time, and this itself requires constant stimulation of nerves; it needs to be monitored with a nice flow of NTs, but sometimes you get a little extra.
Just some thoughts. If I were you, I'd swing by Borders and pick up a recommended book. What are you studying?
Right now, yea im at about 12 credits a semester (4 classes). What I hate most about my sleep habits is im fully awake during the night, but in the mornings I could stay in bed all day if I could. The mornings are terrible for me and I yawn continuously throughout the day until about nighttime is when it starts slowing down (the yawning). I always thought I was just a nocturnal type of person, but im starting to believe maybe its more than just that. Usually something that seems so simple and easy to explain leads to something more drastic. Maybe im just being paranoid.
Im majoring in I.T. Specialist. Most of my classes are computer classes, have taken one java programming and wont ever do that again LOL. Did HTML, was a lot easier than java and more...i guess you could say, enjoyable? So I spend a lot of time infront of the computer, whether school related or not. My music is on the computer, forum, car parts, the list goes on.
I guess I am at a "regular" sleep cycle. Go to bed every night about 1-2am (depending if a good King of the Hill is on, not one ive seen
) and get up at roughly 10-12 in the morning. Thats a pretty long sleep I think....a good nights sleep is supposed to be like 8 hours.
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If you're waking up that late, what hours are you working to be full time? And what time are your classes? When do you usually study?
You are going through what I'm going through lately in grad school. My sleep cycles have shifted a bit and I find that if I try to push myself I end up doing more bad than good. The "state of mind" that you need to be in when you're going crazy hours makes it very hard to sleep comfortably. Our bodies are attuned to light and dark (the pineal gland contains specialized cells you only find in the eye), and when you've pushed yourself to work in a certain time frame (which may be suitable for you but as an organism you're really not "suited" to do these things), your body must accommodate these external "needs" by pumping out certain chemicals that will ensure you remain awake and alert.
Now depression links to this because serotonin oversees many bodily functions related to sleep/wake activities. Also, norepi/epi and a few other NTs are controlled by a few of the serotonin receptors, so it's all sort of linked in some way. This explains why you didn't find much use from the antidepressants. IDK my information isn't complete but I think what you're experiencing is normal when a creature such as yourself is taking on so much stress and responsibility. But like my dad would tell me, it'll put hair on your chest
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, I've found it helpful but you need to sort train yourself to enjoy it while still studying or whatever. However, I know what you mean when you say you can't enjoy some things, especially when you need some simple relief from a hectic workload.
I still recommend finding a decent book to read a chapter or so from every night. It may help to calm you down, take your mind off things and let you doze off.
Also your major probably isn't helping much. Having to keep your eye open staring at a screen, while it's being stimulated by this constant flow of artificial light, changing screens, reading code and so on, you're probably putting some wear on the muscles, and this requires attention from your nerves. I don't think it's anything serious at this point (if you rack up years and years you may start to notice more adverse effects), so perhaps all you need is a 5 minute break every now and then, close your eyes, wash your face, and then get back to work.
I'm not an MD though, just combining things I've learned. Seeing a real doctor may be best.
You are going through what I'm going through lately in grad school. My sleep cycles have shifted a bit and I find that if I try to push myself I end up doing more bad than good. The "state of mind" that you need to be in when you're going crazy hours makes it very hard to sleep comfortably. Our bodies are attuned to light and dark (the pineal gland contains specialized cells you only find in the eye), and when you've pushed yourself to work in a certain time frame (which may be suitable for you but as an organism you're really not "suited" to do these things), your body must accommodate these external "needs" by pumping out certain chemicals that will ensure you remain awake and alert.
Now depression links to this because serotonin oversees many bodily functions related to sleep/wake activities. Also, norepi/epi and a few other NTs are controlled by a few of the serotonin receptors, so it's all sort of linked in some way. This explains why you didn't find much use from the antidepressants. IDK my information isn't complete but I think what you're experiencing is normal when a creature such as yourself is taking on so much stress and responsibility. But like my dad would tell me, it'll put hair on your chest
I like
, I've found it helpful but you need to sort train yourself to enjoy it while still studying or whatever. However, I know what you mean when you say you can't enjoy some things, especially when you need some simple relief from a hectic workload.I still recommend finding a decent book to read a chapter or so from every night. It may help to calm you down, take your mind off things and let you doze off.
Also your major probably isn't helping much. Having to keep your eye open staring at a screen, while it's being stimulated by this constant flow of artificial light, changing screens, reading code and so on, you're probably putting some wear on the muscles, and this requires attention from your nerves. I don't think it's anything serious at this point (if you rack up years and years you may start to notice more adverse effects), so perhaps all you need is a 5 minute break every now and then, close your eyes, wash your face, and then get back to work.
I'm not an MD though, just combining things I've learned. Seeing a real doctor may be best.
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Originally Posted by C U AT 9K,Mar 1 2010, 08:35 PM
If you're waking up that late, what hours are you working to be full time? And what time are your classes? When do you usually study?
You are going through what I'm going through lately in grad school. My sleep cycles have shifted a bit and I find that if I try to push myself I end up doing more bad than good. The "state of mind" that you need to be in when you're going crazy hours makes it very hard to sleep comfortably. Our bodies are attuned to light and dark (the pineal gland contains specialized cells you only find in the eye), and when you've pushed yourself to work in a certain time frame (which may be suitable for you but as an organism you're really not "suited" to do these things), your body must accommodate these external "needs" by pumping out certain chemicals that will ensure you remain awake and alert.
Now depression links to this because serotonin oversees many bodily functions related to sleep/wake activities. Also, norepi/epi and a few other NTs are controlled by a few of the serotonin receptors, so it's all sort of linked in some way. This explains why you didn't find much use from the antidepressants. IDK my information isn't complete but I think what you're experiencing is normal when a creature such as yourself is taking on so much stress and responsibility. But like my dad would tell me, it'll put hair on your chest
I like , I've found it helpful but you need to sort train yourself to enjoy it while still studying or whatever. However, I know what you mean when you say you can't enjoy some things, especially when you need some simple relief from a hectic workload.
I still recommend finding a decent book to read a chapter or so from every night. It may help to calm you down, take your mind off things and let you doze off.
Also your major probably isn't helping much. Having to keep your eye open staring at a screen, while it's being stimulated by this constant flow of artificial light, changing screens, reading code and so on, you're probably putting some wear on the muscles, and this requires attention from your nerves. I don't think it's anything serious at this point (if you rack up years and years you may start to notice more adverse effects), so perhaps all you need is a 5 minute break every now and then, close your eyes, wash your face, and then get back to work.
I'm not an MD though, just combining things I've learned. Seeing a real doctor may be best.
You are going through what I'm going through lately in grad school. My sleep cycles have shifted a bit and I find that if I try to push myself I end up doing more bad than good. The "state of mind" that you need to be in when you're going crazy hours makes it very hard to sleep comfortably. Our bodies are attuned to light and dark (the pineal gland contains specialized cells you only find in the eye), and when you've pushed yourself to work in a certain time frame (which may be suitable for you but as an organism you're really not "suited" to do these things), your body must accommodate these external "needs" by pumping out certain chemicals that will ensure you remain awake and alert.
Now depression links to this because serotonin oversees many bodily functions related to sleep/wake activities. Also, norepi/epi and a few other NTs are controlled by a few of the serotonin receptors, so it's all sort of linked in some way. This explains why you didn't find much use from the antidepressants. IDK my information isn't complete but I think what you're experiencing is normal when a creature such as yourself is taking on so much stress and responsibility. But like my dad would tell me, it'll put hair on your chest
I like
, I've found it helpful but you need to sort train yourself to enjoy it while still studying or whatever. However, I know what you mean when you say you can't enjoy some things, especially when you need some simple relief from a hectic workload.I still recommend finding a decent book to read a chapter or so from every night. It may help to calm you down, take your mind off things and let you doze off.
Also your major probably isn't helping much. Having to keep your eye open staring at a screen, while it's being stimulated by this constant flow of artificial light, changing screens, reading code and so on, you're probably putting some wear on the muscles, and this requires attention from your nerves. I don't think it's anything serious at this point (if you rack up years and years you may start to notice more adverse effects), so perhaps all you need is a 5 minute break every now and then, close your eyes, wash your face, and then get back to work.
I'm not an MD though, just combining things I've learned. Seeing a real doctor may be best.
).I think im just going to wait till this summer after this semester is over to see what the deal is. It will give me a good idea to see if it is stress related or something. If it keeps going during summer then ill see a doctor.