Fastest S2000?
Originally Posted by PanteraKitty,Sep 13 2006, 02:05 PM
Putting all of this into perspective:
You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin-turbo" powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.
The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race course.
That folks, is acceleration
You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin-turbo" powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.
The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race course.
That folks, is acceleration
Imagine you're driving a car that will do 100 mph. Not 100 mph according to the speedometer - that could be anything from 80 on up - but an honest 100 mph, timed with a stopwatch.
One day you're on a straight, flat stretch of road and you decide to put your foot into it. You're cruising at 100 mph when you notice up ahead a silver car sitting at the side of the road; it is idling, out of gear. As you pass it you note that it is low and kind of mean-looking; the driver slips it into gear and starts rolling.
Well before you have covered a mile there is a roar, a whoosh, and in a cloud of dust he has passed you. In another quarter-mile he is completely out of sight.
That, gentlemen, is acceleration.
Never mind how fast you are away from the light, or the time you spun the tires in second gear on dry pavement. Here's a car that spotted you 100 mph and a flying start and in less than a mile went by you like you weren't moving.
What manner of car is this?
It is a 1936 W125 Mercedes-Benz.
That's right: 1936.
OK. Another interesting bit of history. The first stock body car under 12 seconds for the quarter mile was a 1963 Plymouth 2 door sedan. El-cheapo body (it was light) 413 cu. in. engine with long ram induction.
I always found the long ram induction fascinating even though they only used it for two years. Picture one huge 4 barrell carbuerator over the passenger footwell, another huge 4 barrell carbuerator behind the left headlights, and the maze of intake runners over the top of the engine.
Originally Posted by BearNVa,Sep 13 2006, 08:42 AM
Ok me and my boss are having a little argument about which one is faster in the quarter mile.... A 1960 something Plymouth RoadRunner or an S2000?
Please help me out so I can put him in his place. He claims that a modified Roadrunner can do over 200+mph in a 1/4 mile and that an S2000 has never will never beat it. HELP ME SHUT HIM UP!
Please help me out so I can put him in his place. He claims that a modified Roadrunner can do over 200+mph in a 1/4 mile and that an S2000 has never will never beat it. HELP ME SHUT HIM UP!
Modified is all about the money, whomever has the most money wins, it's as simple as that.
In order for a 3500 Plymouth Road Runner to run ~7.00 sec. @ ~200 mph in the 1/4 mile, it would need to produce ~2050 hp.
I doubt that your boss ever came close to the 200 mph or the 2050 hp with his Road Runner.
The 69 Road Runner with the 426 Hemi engine was rated at ~500 hp.
500 hp/3500 lb = 0.14 hp/lb (Road Runner)
240 hp / 2700 lb = 0.09 hp/lb (S2000)
The stock Road Runner should be faster than a stock S2000 in the 1/4 mile.
I doubt that your boss ever came close to the 200 mph or the 2050 hp with his Road Runner.
The 69 Road Runner with the 426 Hemi engine was rated at ~500 hp.
500 hp/3500 lb = 0.14 hp/lb (Road Runner)
240 hp / 2700 lb = 0.09 hp/lb (S2000)
The stock Road Runner should be faster than a stock S2000 in the 1/4 mile.
I'm surprised your boss was able to control at 1960 aerodynamically challenged Roadrunner that goes to 210mph. Ferraris have a hard time getting to that speed mainly because there's so much wind resistance against you. The downforce needed to not take off like an airplane is done in the manufacturer's R&D department, so I'm sure your boss wasn't able to conjure up something out of 2x2s in his garage. Sorry, but he's just trying to impress you, get you drunk and into bed.
Originally Posted by Greenlight,Sep 13 2006, 11:56 PM
500 hp/3500 lb = 0.14 hp/lb (Road Runner)
240 hp / 2700 lb = 0.09 hp/lb (S2000)
The stock Road Runner should be faster than a stock S2000 in the 1/4 mile.
240 hp / 2700 lb = 0.09 hp/lb (S2000)
The stock Road Runner should be faster than a stock S2000 in the 1/4 mile.
Originally Posted by magician,Sep 14 2006, 06:50 AM
Horsepower doesn't produce acceleration; torque does.
Originally Posted by magician,Sep 13 2006, 03:05 PM
It is a 1936 W125 Mercedes-Benz.
In racing form it topped out at about 225 mph. When geared for top speed it hit about 270 mph.
In 1936.
At 150 mph, "a slightly injudicious application of the throttle produced wheelspin."
Because tire technology lagged far behind power and aerodynamics, one of the drivers described driving the W125 as, "driving a slab of butter across a hot grill at 150 mph."




