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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by samducati,Sep 11 2005, 08:22 PM
SO If I do the biceps and triceps the same day, and try doing the chest the next day, won't my triceps be beyond sore that will effect my chest excersises?
Yes it will affect your chest execises. Especially when you're doing any sort of bench presses. After a certain point, your triceps are what continues to push the weight off your chest.

You should try working out your primary or major(chest, back, quads) muscles at the beginning of the week, and finish off with the smaller muscles. This is because the smaller muscles help stabilize the weight you're pushing or pulling, so if they're weak you won't get the most of your exercise.

Example: lets say your worked out your forearms on monday. They're worn out and fatigued on tuesday, but you decide to do a back routine. Well, a whole lot of back exercises require you to grip a bar or handle to order to pull something. So if you're forearms are fatigued then your grip will ultimately give out far before your back muscles will. If this is the case, then your back routine will suffer bc you won't be able to workout as long or as intense are you're originally able to.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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[QUOTE=Liebernoodle,Sep 9 2005, 11:40 AM] Can you expand on this point?
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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Veritas again, your information is great and we see eye to eye on a lot of things.

Samducati,

Also remember that people with a great difined "V" shape also eat correctly. You cant maintain the muscle mass if you dont feed yoru body what it needs. Food intake is a major part in keeping healthy N happy muscles.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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Drunken Monk thanks for compliments
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Veritas,Sep 11 2005, 05:46 PM

Cardio is very demanding and will cause you to not be able to lift as much. The dramatic change in strength happens to almost everyone, so you're not alone. My question to you is what does your cardio consist of? What I would do, if you have the time, is do your cardio in the morning right away, then do your weight lifting later in the day after you get some nutrients in you. When you're lifting your body is going to be drawing on proteins, carbs, and fats. It's a good idea to get something nutritious in you about an hour to an hour and a half before lifting.
Veritas,

I am glad you don't charge by the post

My cardio used to consist of rowing machine 2 days, running 2 days, and bike 2 days. However at this new local gym, they don't have the rowing machines, and the bikes suck. So I am doing 5 days of running, 20 minutes each day.

I really would like to do the cardio and weights separtely..unfortunately not enough time in the day, to bill clients and work the body.


I have to go through your posts, and figure out which exercises will be for my back (lat).....that I will do on my chest/back day..and which are for the shoulder muscles. I am thinking the lateral raises will work the muscle that is between the neck and where the shoulder connects with the arm.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AP1_rock,Sep 11 2005, 07:34 PM
And please don't ever workout on an empty stomach. That's the worse thing you can do..
ok now the advice is conflicting. I have been reading and doing for the past year...early monring work outs.

and now you are saying not to workout on an empty stomach.


wish i had gotten an nutrition degree at school so i would know what is right

what would you suggest?
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AP1_rock,Sep 11 2005, 07:42 PM
Yes it will affect your chest execises. Especially when you're doing any sort of bench presses. After a certain point, your triceps are what continues to push the weight off your chest.

You should try working out your primary or major(chest, back, quads) muscles at the beginning of the week, and finish off with the smaller muscles. This is because the smaller muscles help stabilize the weight you're pushing or pulling, so if they're weak you won't get the most of your exercise.

Example: lets say your worked out your forearms on monday. They're worn out and fatigued on tuesday, but you decide to do a back routine. Well, a whole lot of back exercises require you to grip a bar or handle to order to pull something. So if you're forearms are fatigued then your grip will ultimately give out far before your back muscles will. If this is the case, then your back routine will suffer bc you won't be able to workout as long or as intense are you're originally able to.
I see your point clearly.


WOuld you suggest, chest on monday, forearms on wed, back on friday kinda thing?
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by samducati,Sep 13 2005, 09:45 PM
ok now the advice is conflicting. I have been reading and doing for the past year...early monring work outs.

and now you are saying not to workout on an empty stomach.


wish i had gotten an nutrition degree at school so i would know what is right

what would you suggest?
I would suggest eating something small to power your cardio workout. Preferably a toasted wheat bread or something of the sort with just enough carbs to keep you going through your morning jog.

working out on an empty stomach is bad news. your progress will go backwards very quickly and you have the possibility of fainting if you're having a long enough jog.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by samducati,Sep 13 2005, 09:47 PM
I see your point clearly.


WOuld you suggest, chest on monday, forearms on wed, back on friday kinda thing?
I would put back on Weds and arms on Fridays.

But once you get the hang of things, you can always mix it up to whatever your preference is. Everyones body is different so you can't train the same way as others. Find out how your body adjusts to different routines and stick with what works..until it stops working.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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just FYI

i'm also a Kinesiology - Exercise Science Major like Veritas. I'm headed to Physical Therapy school next year.
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