Gas tips.
I don't know if everything is true or not... but I got this forwarded to me... and thought it was interesting.
> TIPS ON PUMPING GAS (Good information)
> I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California
> we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is
> in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of
> your money's worth for every gallon.
>
> Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we deliver
> about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is
> diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades.
> We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.
>
> Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground
> temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their
> storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the
> gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon
> or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum
> business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel
> and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.
> A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the
> service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
> When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast
> mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low,
> middle, and high In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby
> minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at
> the pump have a vapor return If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of
> the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being
> sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less
> worth for your money.
> One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF
> FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your
> tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster
> than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating
> roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the
> atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here
> where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that
> every gallon is actually the exact amount.
>
> Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
> tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is
> being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some
> of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.
> Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.
> TIPS ON PUMPING GAS (Good information)
> I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California
> we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is
> in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of
> your money's worth for every gallon.
>
> Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we deliver
> about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is
> diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades.
> We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.
>
> Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground
> temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their
> storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the
> gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon
> or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum
> business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel
> and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.
> A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the
> service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
> When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast
> mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low,
> middle, and high In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby
> minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at
> the pump have a vapor return If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of
> the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being
> sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less
> worth for your money.
> One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF
> FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your
> tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster
> than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating
> roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the
> atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here
> where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that
> every gallon is actually the exact amount.
>
> Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
> tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is
> being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some
> of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.
> Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.
Maybe I'm argumentative, but I don't think I buy that. The tanks are so huge that they are no doubt buried below the frost line. The temperature below that point fluctuates very minimally, and less so the further down you go. The frost line (in North American areas that see freezing temps) is typically somewhere between 2-6 feet. I am not about to spend the next few hours doing the math to create graphs showing tank depth vs ambient air temperature vs fuel temp vs volume but logic tells me those tanks are not seeing more than a VERY minute change in temperature at any time.
If you were out in the desert, would you say that it's not worth burying your feet in the sand to avoid burning them because it's the afternoon and not early morning? I know it's a crude comparison for various reasons, but there are parallels.
If you were out in the desert, would you say that it's not worth burying your feet in the sand to avoid burning them because it's the afternoon and not early morning? I know it's a crude comparison for various reasons, but there are parallels.
with this info, i'll save all of $.50 a year. not to mention i'll have to wake up early (when it's freezing and inconvenient), and take even longer to fill up in "slow" mode.
and if i spot a gasoline truck at my usual station, i'll have to drive to a farther gas station just because of a little dirt?
i do need to change my fuel filter though.
blech.
and if i spot a gasoline truck at my usual station, i'll have to drive to a farther gas station just because of a little dirt?
i do need to change my fuel filter though.
blech.
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Originally Posted by magician,Nov 30 2007, 05:51 PM
You'll probably save 20 times as much fuel by simply keeping it under 85 on the freeway.
And forget a Prius. Do a little research on "the dead zone" in Ontario where the Nickel is mined to make the batteries for the Prius.








