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Old Jul 3, 2001 | 07:02 AM
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The sad case is that Jordan seem to be a better car and BAR seem to have better drivers...
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Old Jul 3, 2001 | 08:09 AM
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Good point, good point... but what interesting to me is, in qualifying, the honda teams always fair better than the results of the race... I guess that's where the team strategy, etc comes into play.

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Old Jul 3, 2001 | 08:28 AM
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Trulli seems to qualify well but falls asleep during the race.
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Old Jul 3, 2001 | 08:40 AM
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If you are 6/10ths of second back in qualifying (Trulli's usual differential from the leader). That's going to translate into a huge disparity in the actual race. After 80 or so laps, you can count on being nearly a minute behind the leader.
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Old Jul 3, 2001 | 09:31 AM
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Honda should pull out of CART and concentrate on F-1 instead of spreading their engineering talent between two different open wheel series. Racing doesn't sell many Hondas in the US.

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Old Jul 3, 2001 | 12:37 PM
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Aardy,
Remember that Honda's primary reason for involvement in racing is not to sell cars, but as a training ground for engineers to hone their talents under the extreme pressure of racing. Often, Honda will switch out almost the entire group of engineers devoted to a racing series in mid-season to expose as many engineers as possible. Although, this philosophy, on the surface, seems to hamstring racing progress, the system over the years has proven itself effective both in racing results and the technical advancement of their consumer products.
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Old Jul 3, 2001 | 01:08 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by naishou
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Exactly right.
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Old Jul 3, 2001 | 01:10 PM
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It's funny, but I was just talking to Mingster about Honda and F1 at lunch. I used to follow F1 a lot more closely when Honda was in it with McClaren and they had Senna and Prost as drivers. Back in those days, Honda ruled the engines since they were turbo'ed. Mingster told me that ever since F1 banned turbo's, it's been harder for Honda to get the power out of theiur NA engines. We actually discussed some of the new advances that they're working on to compete with the big boys.
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Old Jul 3, 2001 | 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by S2KALI
Aardy,
Remember that Honda's primary reason for involvement in racing is not to sell cars, but as a training ground for engineers to hone their talents under the extreme pressure of racing. Often, Honda will switch out almost the entire group of engineers devoted to a racing series in mid-season to expose as many engineers as possible. Although, this philosophy, on the surface, seems to hamstring racing progress, the system over the years has proven itself effective both in racing results and the technical advancement of their consumer products.
Yes, ostensibly. This is Honda's third go at F-1 and this time (so far) the results have not been stellar. How long will Honda continue to consider this premiere racing series a "training ground" only and not produce regular podium finishes? I have the feeling, not long. CART withdrawal won't be long in coming is my hunch.

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Old Jul 3, 2001 | 03:28 PM
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Aardvark,
That's a good question. Honda has rarely failed at anything. I wonder how they are dealing with this season? I remember last season, the CEO went public with his disappointment in the season at the GP of Japan. He probably needs a pop-off valve to deal with this season's results. But then again, I still think the Honda engine is the least of the problems for BAR and Jordan. When Villeneuve finished third in the Spanish GP, he commented that the car was very hard to drive.
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