Kuwait is not a "manufactured" state...
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In recent post here, a member claimed that KUWAIT was a "manufactured" state established by Western entities much like Israel.
"We also made kuwait...to take care of our oil for us... The arabic nations (not just iraq) hated kuwait because they were very rich and controlled most of the oil. This country was made by the US in their land...very upsetting. It would be like if china made a new state next to the US and every tech company was in it. And they controlled all of the money and product out of our new economy...wouldn't make us too happy. The point is...we can't expect them to not be pissed."
The information that I found at CNN.com country profile does not seem to support those statements. What do you guys think? I post this simply because the statement didn't jive with my knowledge of the region and I figured we all want to know more about the region in general.
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The earliest civilizations in the area of modern Kuwait is traced back to the third millennium B.C., when the ancient West Asian Sumer kingdom extended over an area almost identical to the later biblical land of Babylon. In the third century B.C., Alexander the Great’s soldiers conquered the island of Faylakah and built a temple to honor the God Artemis.
Kuwait's modern history began in the early 18th century with the founding of the city of Kuwait by the Anaiza tribe, led by the Sabah family, who had migrated from the interior to the Arabian shore of the Gulf. By 1756, under the Sabah ruling dynasty, settlers decided to appoint a Sheikh to administer affairs and represent them in dealing with the powerful Ottoman Empire.
Kuwait’s first major contact with the West occurred between 1775 and 1779 when the British operated East India Company’s Persian Gulf-Aleppo Mail Service was diverted through Kuwait from Persian occupied Basra (in Iraq). With the increasing threat of raids from the Wahhabi sect of central Arabia and the desire for protection, an even closer relationship between Kuwait and the British was forged.
During the 19th century, Kuwait tried to obtain British support to maintain its independence from the Turkish Ottoman Empire and various powerful Arabian Peninsula groups. In 1899, the ruler Sheikh Mubarak al-Sabah "the Great" signed an agreement with the United Kingdom pledging himself and his successors neither to cede any territory nor to receive agents or representatives of any foreign power without the British government's consent. Britain agreed to grant an annual subsidy to support the Sheikh and his heirs and to provide its protection. Kuwait then enjoyed special treaty relations with the U.K., which handled Kuwait's foreign affairs and was responsible for its security.
Mubarak was followed as ruler by his sons Jabir (1915-1917) and Salim (1917-1921). Subsequent emirs descended from these two brothers. Sheikh Ahmed al-Jabir al-Sabah ruled from 1921 until his death in 1950 and Sheikh Abdullah al-Salim al-Sabah from 1950 to 1965. By early 1961, the British had withdrawn their special court system, which handled the cases of foreigners resident in Kuwait, and the Kuwaiti Government began to exercise legal jurisdiction under new laws drawn up by an Egyptian jurist. On June 19, 1961, Kuwait became fully independent following an exchange of accords with the United Kingdom.
The boundary with Saudi Arabia was set before independence, in 1922, with the Treaty of Uqair following the Battle of Jahrah. This treaty also established the Kuwait-Saudi Arabia Neutral Zone, an area of about 5,180 sq. km. (2,000 sq. mi.), adjoining Kuwait's southern border. In December 1969, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia signed an agreement dividing the Neutral Zone (now called the Divided Zone) and demarcating a new international boundary. Both countries share equally the Divided Zone's petroleum, onshore and offshore. In July 2000, an agreement delineating the maritime boarders between Kuwait and Saudi Arabia was signed by both countries’ legislative bodies.
Kuwait's northern border with Iraq dates from an agreement made with Turkey in 1913. Iraq accepted this claim in 1932 upon its independence from Turkey. Following Kuwait's independence in 1961, however, Iraq claimed Kuwaiti territory, based on the understanding that Kuwait had been part of the Ottoman Empire subject to Iraqi suzerainty. In 1963, Iraq reaffirmed its acceptance of Kuwaiti sovereignty, and recognized the boundary that had previously agreed been upon in 1913 and 1932, in the "Agreed Minutes Between the State of Kuwait and the Republic of Iraq Regarding the Restoration of Friendly Relations, Recognition, and Related Matters."
Despite this measure of assent, in August 1990, Iraq nevertheless invaded Kuwait. Iraq was subsequently forced out of Kuwait seven months later by an international military alliance led by the led by the United States. Following the liberation of Kuwait, the U.N., under Security Council Resolution 687, demarcated the Iraq-Kuwait boundary onthe basis of the 1932 and the 1963 agreements between the two states.
Although the demarcation is final and reaffirmed under Chapter VII of the U.N. Charter by U.N. Security Council Resolution 833, Iraq has refused to accept the present borders, and continues to make claims to Kuwait.
"We also made kuwait...to take care of our oil for us... The arabic nations (not just iraq) hated kuwait because they were very rich and controlled most of the oil. This country was made by the US in their land...very upsetting. It would be like if china made a new state next to the US and every tech company was in it. And they controlled all of the money and product out of our new economy...wouldn't make us too happy. The point is...we can't expect them to not be pissed."
The information that I found at CNN.com country profile does not seem to support those statements. What do you guys think? I post this simply because the statement didn't jive with my knowledge of the region and I figured we all want to know more about the region in general.
KUWAIT
More on this country:
Key dataPeopleHistoryEconomicsAgricultureEnergyMetalsE nvironment
History
The earliest civilizations in the area of modern Kuwait is traced back to the third millennium B.C., when the ancient West Asian Sumer kingdom extended over an area almost identical to the later biblical land of Babylon. In the third century B.C., Alexander the Great’s soldiers conquered the island of Faylakah and built a temple to honor the God Artemis.
Kuwait's modern history began in the early 18th century with the founding of the city of Kuwait by the Anaiza tribe, led by the Sabah family, who had migrated from the interior to the Arabian shore of the Gulf. By 1756, under the Sabah ruling dynasty, settlers decided to appoint a Sheikh to administer affairs and represent them in dealing with the powerful Ottoman Empire.
Kuwait’s first major contact with the West occurred between 1775 and 1779 when the British operated East India Company’s Persian Gulf-Aleppo Mail Service was diverted through Kuwait from Persian occupied Basra (in Iraq). With the increasing threat of raids from the Wahhabi sect of central Arabia and the desire for protection, an even closer relationship between Kuwait and the British was forged.
During the 19th century, Kuwait tried to obtain British support to maintain its independence from the Turkish Ottoman Empire and various powerful Arabian Peninsula groups. In 1899, the ruler Sheikh Mubarak al-Sabah "the Great" signed an agreement with the United Kingdom pledging himself and his successors neither to cede any territory nor to receive agents or representatives of any foreign power without the British government's consent. Britain agreed to grant an annual subsidy to support the Sheikh and his heirs and to provide its protection. Kuwait then enjoyed special treaty relations with the U.K., which handled Kuwait's foreign affairs and was responsible for its security.
Mubarak was followed as ruler by his sons Jabir (1915-1917) and Salim (1917-1921). Subsequent emirs descended from these two brothers. Sheikh Ahmed al-Jabir al-Sabah ruled from 1921 until his death in 1950 and Sheikh Abdullah al-Salim al-Sabah from 1950 to 1965. By early 1961, the British had withdrawn their special court system, which handled the cases of foreigners resident in Kuwait, and the Kuwaiti Government began to exercise legal jurisdiction under new laws drawn up by an Egyptian jurist. On June 19, 1961, Kuwait became fully independent following an exchange of accords with the United Kingdom.
The boundary with Saudi Arabia was set before independence, in 1922, with the Treaty of Uqair following the Battle of Jahrah. This treaty also established the Kuwait-Saudi Arabia Neutral Zone, an area of about 5,180 sq. km. (2,000 sq. mi.), adjoining Kuwait's southern border. In December 1969, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia signed an agreement dividing the Neutral Zone (now called the Divided Zone) and demarcating a new international boundary. Both countries share equally the Divided Zone's petroleum, onshore and offshore. In July 2000, an agreement delineating the maritime boarders between Kuwait and Saudi Arabia was signed by both countries’ legislative bodies.
Kuwait's northern border with Iraq dates from an agreement made with Turkey in 1913. Iraq accepted this claim in 1932 upon its independence from Turkey. Following Kuwait's independence in 1961, however, Iraq claimed Kuwaiti territory, based on the understanding that Kuwait had been part of the Ottoman Empire subject to Iraqi suzerainty. In 1963, Iraq reaffirmed its acceptance of Kuwaiti sovereignty, and recognized the boundary that had previously agreed been upon in 1913 and 1932, in the "Agreed Minutes Between the State of Kuwait and the Republic of Iraq Regarding the Restoration of Friendly Relations, Recognition, and Related Matters."
Despite this measure of assent, in August 1990, Iraq nevertheless invaded Kuwait. Iraq was subsequently forced out of Kuwait seven months later by an international military alliance led by the led by the United States. Following the liberation of Kuwait, the U.N., under Security Council Resolution 687, demarcated the Iraq-Kuwait boundary onthe basis of the 1932 and the 1963 agreements between the two states.
Although the demarcation is final and reaffirmed under Chapter VII of the U.N. Charter by U.N. Security Council Resolution 833, Iraq has refused to accept the present borders, and continues to make claims to Kuwait.
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there is no reason why a country with a more powerful military should take over another country. The more petroleum supplies Iraq controls the more money Suddam Hussein has to sponsor terrorist fanatics like ben Laden. Is this what you would like to see?
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mfabry "Is this what you would like to see?"
What do you mean? I don't remember making any assertions one way or the other about Iraq v.s. Kuwait. I was just passing along the history of Kuwait as reported by cnn.com. I only did this because it contradicted what had been posted on this site earlier and many people had thoughts/questions regarding the original post....
Please re-read my post, and if I misunderstood you, forgive me.
What do you mean? I don't remember making any assertions one way or the other about Iraq v.s. Kuwait. I was just passing along the history of Kuwait as reported by cnn.com. I only did this because it contradicted what had been posted on this site earlier and many people had thoughts/questions regarding the original post....
Please re-read my post, and if I misunderstood you, forgive me.
