I walk though times square every day on the way from Penn Station to 50th street. I don't know what you're complaining about. I think that's the best part of my commute by far. You never know what you're going to see. Sometimes I'll take off my headphones just to listen to all of the sounds, including the vulgar language. I love it, most day's I don't even need coffee after that walk.

I do not like getting stuck in the MTV crowd when I'm walking home to catch a train, but that only happens when I leave work early, and how can I be put in a bad mood when I leave work early.

BTW, I used to think you guys were nuts for driving the stooks around Manhattan. That was till Friday night while I was walking on 35th street over to Joushua Tree on 3rd ave I saw one of the oddest things. Parked in front of a Civic and behind an Olds(?) was a new Lambourgini Diablo VT. Just sitting there. No armed guards or anything. The guy just parked his car there and was nowhere in sight. I had to stop and check it out, man what a wild car.

-- Tom

 

>>>>NYC is an 'indoors' city, everything happens indoors, not outside walking the streets - Everything is so busy and overwhelming you have to shut some senses down or else it becomes so much of an overload - which might be why some people appear to be rude and ignoring to you (and me) <<<<


Actually, that's not true. . . I've worked in lower Manhattan for 5+ years (ever since finishing my undergrad) and I can truly say that NYC is QUITE the outdoor city. . . From the concerts in Central Park & the World Trade Center, to the various street fairs throughout the year, NY is all about the outdoors. . .

Ironically, I think that most New Yorkers spend more of their free time outside than residents of the burbs (who typically stay inside their A/C & climate controlled homes). . .

Also, maybe its my NY/NJ bias, but life isn't that busy or fast. . . I think it seems fast to people who aren't use to so many people in one place. . .

 

First of all NEW YORK Rules, I grew up there and they have the best public schools in the country. We are talking FREE Education, and a good one. Secondly, I think the driving like crap thing has to be analyzed. Just because us New Yorkers don't yield to pedestrians doesn't mean that we can't drive. Try driving in the rain out in LA. I'm telling you, no one has a dman clue. Everyone starts freaking out. Its only rain, its not snow or ice, I mean, c'mon. It is a sad sad state of affairs out here when it rains. Luckily, it doesn't rain that often and I ride with my s2k top down all the time.

 

i wouldn't say people drive like crap but it's definately everyone for themselves...i've seen worse driving in other places i've been to...once you're there you have to fend for yourself...and i love driving my stook there....esp on 6th ave all the way down from spring street to central park...you get to manuvuer your way through the cabs and slower moving vehicles...no one ever gets a speeding ticket on the main streets =)

i can't stand people being slow and in no rush...i have places to be and things to do. i love the concept of the new york minute...we have no time to spend and dilly-dally. if you're not living on the edge they're you're taking up too much space.

 

Disagree with the indoor city comment. In the summer/spring months there are few things greater than having lunch in Central Park or by the South Street Seaport. The views are spectacular and the scenary isn't bad either.

 

I AGREE with turbo_pwr

The viewing pleasures in the spring/summer at the Seaport, Central Park, City Hall Park, and the WTC/WFC are definitely a sight to see . . .

Matter of fact, I can't wait until tomorrow around noon, the forecast is for lots of sun & a high of 80

 

fine! ha! disagree - it wasn't my comment, only something a particular person in a store was chatting with me about, and again someone else that was commenting about the same thing at the hotel (the Roger Williams in Manhattan).

I didn't say I didn't like it, I just wouldn't want to live there - a bit too intense for me, yes on the edge indeed. I'll take up space on a hill country drive though. =D

 

Hmm..could be just me, but I think that most stook owners living in the metro NY area don't actually live in Manhattan. That being the case, it's great to get home and take a nice drive to unwind. Yes, while Manhattan is a 24 hour, non-stop entertainment city, just across the rivers on both sides there are plenty of get aways that are easily accessible.

The summers are great here, as you can go down the Jersey shore or out to the Hamptons on eastern Long Island... Manhattan itself is only a very small piece of land with a ton of buildings! :-)

 

I never lived in NYC, but what most european people say about New York is that it is the only town in the US where you can actually live a normal life (some people say SF also, but when I was there, after 1 week I felt opressed by the smallness of the town, by its 'provincial' aspect).
NYC is definitely one of the very few places in the world where I could live, it's the ULTIMATE city, it's a concentrate of everything, its amazingly varied, alive, exiting. It's very european in a way, you can walk from one place to the other, some buildings are more than 30yrs old (Orange county, anyone?), the food is good, and...unlike in the rest of the USA...the girls are beautiful.
And if you think driving is bad in NY, then maybe it's time to travel the world a bit, and go to wonderful places such as Napoli, Cairo, Lagos, Athens, Paris...where streets are narrow, the drivers mean, and the cars fast.

 

Swurvydel,

Don't you mean up to central park from Spring street? (6th runs uptown).

In any case. IMO, This is the best city in the world. We have everything available at all hours. I live 5 minutes from Manhattan (by subway driving is more like 15), and I can get 24 hour delivery of 7 different types of food.

Re: indoor city.

I couldn't disagree more. There are over 100 golf courses within a 50 mile radius of Manhattan. I believe (27 municipal courses in the city itself), Central Park smack in the middle of Manhattan. Less than an hour away we have the catskill and pocono mountains.


NYC does have its drawbacks. Cost of living is very high, and the fast pace can be very stressful. As with any city that has a population of 60,000/ Sq. Mile (double during working hours) there is a lot of traffic, and more than our fair share of moron drivers. though most of those are convieniently marked by driving bright yellow Chevy Caprices, or black lincolns with a license plate beginning with the letter 'T'.