Paid vacation!!! Im joining the police force /thread

http://news.yahoo.com/lapd-commander...054751139.html

 

WTF!!! This shit makes my blood boil, what makes it worse for me is these assholes never get proper justice. If an average joe did this to anybody and was caught he would be in jail for assault/battery, the cops get a slap on the wrist and for some f@#king reason never EVER seem to lose their job much less serve time. It seriously makes me want to quit my job just so I can be an internal affairs cop and start holding these f@#ks accountable.

 

yeah.. that place is about 30-40 minutes from my area.. in my locale, its much better with police.. cant say that for LAPD in certain areas.. you would think they would be alot more careful nowadays with cameras everywhere and with the reputation that division has (same division responsible for Rodney King).

 

Ya, this kinda shit happens alot more than we actually hear about it. But I guess its ok because im just a cop hating, paranoid tinfoil hat wearer.

 

wow. that is crazy! insane cops

 

"Jordan got out of the car and cursed the two officers who stopped her"

Should have kept her mouth shut and this wouldn't have happened.

 

You know she did something really retarded when her attorney's statement is: "She made some unwise moves," her attorney, Sy Nazif, told the station.

 

should have stayed at home

 

I am ok with most of this. Getting out of your car and cussing will land you in cuffs 10/10 times, shoulda charged her with disordely as well. Fight your ticket in court not the streets.

Kysuhin you put off the I am an obvious criminal or tin foil hat wearer vibe. You search out antipolice stuff just to post it and validate your f@#k the police attitude. I could counter all day with police saving people, helping victims of crimes, and doing good deeds.

 

True but it is perfectly within your right to swear at cops, as long as you do not threaten. You can tell them to f themselves if you want.

US Supreme Court Lewis v. City of New Orleans. Read the decision. Police officers are an arm of the government, to criticize them is protected by free political speech rights, regarless of the ugliness. The court also found to allow otherwise would open the door for police to arrest anyone they did not like or whom they felt had an attitude, as in this case.

It gets charged all the time, because people pay a fine and walk away and nobody goes through the trouble to fight it. My wife did a stint as a city prosecutor her first year out of law school and told me every Monday during arraingments there were a couple people locked up for the weekend who decided to flip off a cop, usually some college kid. Was it legal to charge them? No, but she said they just paid $300 to "keep it off their record" as the generous offer from the prosecutor says, and they surrender their rigthts to make it all go away.

Those who fight it usually win. Google "David Hackbart". He got $50k for a malicious prosecution lawsuit against the City of Pittsburgh when he was charged for flipping off an officer. The police are more than familiar with Lewis v New Orleans and when they arrest anyway, they do so without probable cause and open themselves up to lawsuits.

DeanoD, her actions may have been unwise, but "They should have charged her with disorderly as well" means you don't get it. The charge is the abuse. You are protected from being charged with a crime for expressing yourself through speech, art, gesture or any other form of expression by the first amendment, unless it falls within VERY narrow exceptions carved out by the courts, like threats of violence, "fighting words", and obscenity. "Obscenity" and "fighting words" have complex legal definitions that are very hard to reach on purpose to prevent police abuse, as it should be. "F You" is not obscene, because the legal definition requires that you intended to appeal to the "prurient interest" or turn that person on. Nobody gets turned on by being told "F You". (Miller test)

If you can't get angry with someone and maybe let a couple blue words fly without being threatened with fines and jail, then how do you have free speech? Most disorderly conduct or breach of peace statutes are on the books contradicting the real world application of court decisions. In my state, the disorderly conduct statute says that if you do something to "offend or know might offend" you can be found guilty and spend 90 days in jail. So does that conflict freedom of speech? Sure, and every year the cops lobby my legislature to keep from changing the law so they can still threaten stupid people with it (and abuse it). Under the way the law is written, my nephew can get thrown in jail for calling my other nephew a "poop head" because he knows that might offend him. Does that sound at all legal to you given the first amendment?

An officer can not search your home without probable cause, it is in the constitution. They can't take a legal gun away, or force to participate in or forbid you from a religion because of the constitution. This is a case where cops KNOW you can let off steam but instead say "whoopsie! we never heard of the first amendment" and arrest her and rough her up to try to teach her a lesson. The judicial system generally does not put a stop to it. The prosecutor is on the same team as the cop and tries to push the charge anyway to try to justify police action, and generally bring in fine money. You now have to go to court, defend yourself or get a lawyer, and spend money and time when you have not broken the law and they know it.

The problem is, cops are employed to enforce the law as far as it applies and stop where your rights begin. When they don't, they are themselves guilty of a crime (technically) by denying civil rights. And lastly, what is the cop going to say about what crime has been committed, "She hurt my feelings?" That deserves a criminal charge?

How is that for long winded?