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Old May 30, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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this is yet another PS3 vs Xbox 360 thread, but with a twist, i want to pick it base more on bluray vs HD DVD

i have a 1080p HD TV and i want to watch Hi Def DVD with it

i figure out the price of PS3 or Xbox 360 console alone would worth the price of the bluray or HD DVD player respectively. and able to play Hi Def games is a plus, but i mostly want to buy either one for the Hi Def DVD

So which one to get? are they able to display (work with) 1080p HD TV?

p.s. can Wii display in HD?

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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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hard to say, hd-dvd vs br is still up in the air as far as i know.

there are companies out there definitely taking sides though, so you might wanna research about that.

wii does not display in hd. 480p max res.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by simon122,May 30 2007, 05:02 PM
hard to say, hd-dvd vs br is still up in the air as far as i know.

there are companies out there definitely taking sides though, so you might wanna research about that.

wii does not display in hd. 480p max res.
you KNOW wii graphics suck ass. but it DOES have great gameplay
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Old May 30, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Personally I would not buy ANY hi-def DVD player now. If you just want a player, my advice is hold off a year.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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Just for HD movies, I say look at the catalogs and studios lined up on each side. Some must-have movies can make the decision for you.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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well i got to make better use of the 1080p TV

maybe i will have to get back into video game after all ... lol
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Old May 31, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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as for HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray, it's up in the air.

Blu-Ray has more exclusive studios (Fox, Sony, Disney) while HD-DVD has Universal and Weinstein. Paramount and Warner/New Line do both formats. Dreamworks supports both, but has only released HD-DVD thus far. Comparing specific titles in both formats, they both sell about equally well. As to the number of titles, it is about even, though I think HD-DVD is up on this.

As to the number of players (not counting consoles), HD-DVD is pretty far ahead here. Blu-Ray has the PS3, but not all buyers buy this for movies. The Xbox, however, would have all buyers buying the drive FOR movies...big difference. Also, the Xbox360 FAR outsells the PS3. The Xbox could also support a BD drive if it were to win out.

When comparing discs sold, Sony claims Blu-Ray to be ahead. Many of those "sales" are giveaways to PS3 owners, though (and they never said if a "sale" was a sale to a consumer or a store. IMO, I think both titles are even here.

Technology wise, HD-DVD is far ahead. Blu-Ray's big advantage is space, but even the 30GB of HD-DVD is more than adequate (even if you need more, just do another disc for extras...HD-DVD discs cost FAR less to make). Other than that, HD-DVD leads. HD-DVD has all of the following as a REQUIREMENT of the player to be HD-DVD certified
-Dual video decoders for the "in movie eperience and advanced interactivity. This is not available on Blu-Ray as far as I know
-Ethernet port on all players
-Players MUST decode Dolby Digital Plus, DTS, LPCM, and Dolby TrueHD on-board (which must be heard...it is just AWESOME). DD+ and TrueHD are optional on Blu-Ray and most players can't decode these formats (Dolby Digital and DTS are mandatory, though).

If your player can decode TrueHD, you only need a receiver that does HDMI switching and LPCM audio. Or, if it has 6-channel analog outs, you can use that to hear TrueHD, although the BD players that have this don't support TrueHD this way. If it doesn't decode it, you need a receiver that can decode it as well as HDMI 1.3...and none exist.
-All HD-DVD players have persistent storage of bookmarks, firmware and the like. It is not required on Blu-Ray

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For audio, HD-DVD wins hands down due to each player having to decode advanced formats. Video wise, they are about equal. They both can use the H.264 codec which looks great. HD-DVD also can do VC-1 which is basically equivalent. Oddly, many Sony BD discs are MPEG2 which is NOT as good. I think the only reason they did this is to take up space on the disc trying to convince the other studios that the space on a BD disc is easily used (MPEG2 takes up way more space). Very sneaky if you ask me.

Needless to say, it's obvious I prefer HD-DVD. Both are great formats when compared to DVD. I'd imagine both formats are going to coexist a while. As for massive production, HD-DVD has a big leg up, though, because the discs can be made on existing equipment.

If you want a console for movies, I suggest a standalone. They are way better. My HD-DVD has a Silicon Optix HQV video scaler (probably the best out there by far, but it was $800), which is something you will never find on a console. Of course, the consoles are a good deal. HD-DVD players start at $299 with 5 movies, and that player is pretty good. Blu-Ray starts at $499, but that player is missing many key features.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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thanks, very informative

so PS3 can play blurays right out of the box, right?

how about xbox 360? what's the total ticket price before i can play HD DVD?
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Old May 31, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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By a console for the games. Dual format players are on their way, hold out for those.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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The PS3 plays Blu-ray out of the box for $600

The Xbox360's tab would be between $499 and $679 with the HD-DVD drive, depending on which version you get. So, basically the same as the PS3 if you get the Platinum version with the 20G HD. The Elite would cost more, but you do get a very nice HDMI cable with it...you do NOT get one with the PS3...so from a total price even the Elite is comparable.

The Elite Xbox has HDMI, but I think this feature is overblown as an absolute must-have. The regular Xbox supports both component as well as VGA, and both do 1080p.
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