ya right.

http://www.islamworld.net/

ibrahim@islamworld.net <ibrahim@islamworld.net>

 

(sigh)

historically, and i'm not taking any sides here eventhough i'm just as outraged as any american, more people have died in the name of christianity than any other religions put together - not to mention the mass killings among christian groups even today.

 

Um... what are you trying to say man?

 

I dont think this site represents the "other side" as this was quoted from the site:
We cannot jump to conclusions based on religious faith alone as all Americans, Christian, agnostic, atheist, Pagan, Budist, Muslims, Jewish and more are outraged by the events that unfolded yesterday. We cannot stereotype any one or group as that would only create more problems.

 

Mingster, no one has died under the "name" of Christianity in the way that you are implying. Those who kill in the name of Christianity are not following the faith. I don't know squat about Muslim or Islam, but I would suspect that these religions wouldn't support murder as we have seen yesterday.

Those who kill in the name of religion are not upholding the tenents of that religion, especially, since it's something I know a bit about, when you're talking about Christianity. Christianity shouldn't be, as other legit religions shouldn't be, blamed or included in a discussion about someone who claims themselves to be Christian and then does something completley antithetical to what the religion teaches. It's called hypocrisy...

Just because someone CALLS themselves a Christian, does not make it so...and more importantly, the more a person calls themselves a Christian, the less I believe them. But that's just me...

 

Tragedy is no excuse for racism or Islamophobia. I'm comforted, though, by the others that have spoken up.

American, White, Christians blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City. That doesn't mean that these three classifications have any relationship to their acts.

 

gregstevens, I understand the sentiment of your post. But lets face it, the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition were about as church sponsored as you can get. Plenty of people have killed for causes wrapped in the self-righteousness of the organized Christian religion. Does it make it right, does it mean they were practicing the very tenants of their religion? No....

 

This is what bothered me...

" THERE IS NO DEITY WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER"


As soon as you start believing your religion is the "only" one, the problems begin. I also believe that almost all religions have had bloodstained hands at one time or another but this is the religion that allows so many extremists to exist in it's ranks*. Remember the Islamic " Pope" (Ayatolla) condones violence against the infidels. Infidels being us.

This religion is too easily perverted.


*The Mideast, Chechneya in Russia (and other parts of the former USSR that I can't even hope to spell) Napal, The Philipines, and China all are troubled by Islamic fundementalists.

 

They may have called themselves Christians but they are not. Many have called themselves Muslim and done the same thing and they are not! Many have called themselves Catholic and are not! Many have called themselves Protestant and they are not! Many have called themselves Hindu and are not! Many who have called themselves shik an they are not. Many have called themselves human and they are not. Anyone that has killed for the sole purpose of killing is not! How dare you make such accusations. "Let he that is without sin cast the first stone!" What gives you the right to cast stones at others and condemn them. This is one of the most racist statements that I've ever heard. Racism has many forms but one goal, to cast aspersions on others because of their race, creed ,religion, spiritual belief. I can't believe Richard that you of all people would cast such condemnation!

So if I have to kill in the line of duty to protect others I not a Christian? Because I had to take lives in war I not a Christian? So all the soldiers that lost there lives in all the wars combined ,in the quest to maintain freedom from tyranny are not Christian. The same one that gave you your freedom! Who the hell are you to judge them or I? What have you done to uphold the freedoms of your country except pay it lipservice by condeming all those that fought so hard for your freedom. Don't you ever speak before you think again! Now I'm pissed and greatly offended What's worse your going to try to justify to me what you just said.

Forget about e-mailing me on the Spoon N-1. I'm taking my purchase elsewhere!

 

Let's not tar everyone with a misplaced brush. Extremists exist at all levels and in all religions. And, shocking as the concept may be to some, the Palestians and others do have some grounds for hating the Americans--our unequivocal, unilateral support of all positions and actions of the Israelis (sp?) has alienated many people in the Middle East.

I was surprised when I walked into a liquor store today and found the clerk was sporting a turban. I didn't engage him in a political discussion, but I admired his courage. I was in another city, and perhaps that's his customary attire, but he certainly had the courage of his convictions.

Our country was founded on the belief that you can't judge a man by his race or religion. We have sometimes failed to live up to that high ideal, but we have always aspired to it. Once we begin categorizing all members of any ethnic group as responsible for the misdeeds of a few, we are no better than the Hitlers and other bigots.

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