There again, I'm in the belly of the beast (industry-wise).

 

actually ElTiant isnt too far off.

the companies ive worked for are BAE Systems and MITRE. You cant tell me those are 2nd rate companies =\

 

Like anywhere, I think you really have to choose your employers wisely.

Do understand, as ElTianti is getting at, is there's no loyalty in this line of work. I've been at the same employer from 2,000 people to 7,000 people; and it's one helluva change. I can only imagine what will happen if we get bought out and/or expand to systems outside of our core competencies.

 

[QUOTE=ElTianti,Apr 6 2009, 12:24 PM] I have a degree in CS and I

 

*some* of the jobs are going over seas.

half of a good developers job is learning the business of their customer in order to create an app that will actually improve the business process and facilitate productivity. having your devs in india on random schedules means they never get to really learn the business they're developing for. granted in some companies this is taken care of by BAs but still... when you offshore new development you're asking for a shitty product. many companies do realize this.

in addition to the above, there are business sectors (insurance, financial) where some things can't/won't be offshored due to the sensitive nature of the systems and data involved.

anyhow. if you don't want to be a developer don't be... less competition = more money for me

 

Im confused with what some of the degrees can get you jobs in. I just learned from one of the top posts what MIS was. All I knew about was Computer Science, (java, html, etc) and CIT... which in the junior college Im at right now is all hardware related, which bores me.

 

good topic, I'm looking for the same thing, how about networking?

 

Well, in any of these sub-fields, it's imperative to figure out whether you're management-oriented or technical-oriented.

Networking is a funny one, as it's become more infrastructure/management sided. If you want to actually develop new technologies for networking, it's best to go to a networking-related job and make sure you moonlight-research the IEEE RFCs, and keep tabs on them.

Otherwise, just be a shrewd problem solver, and be skilled in talking and working with people.

There's always the third route of technical marketing, but you still have to be shrewd enough to understand customer pain.

 

for the IT knowledgeable crowd... this is what happens when you offshore.

http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/eTeller-Horror.aspx

 

I would get into programming and network security... try your best to get a gov or gov contractor job... I here McAfee starts, if you are good around $110/year.