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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dolemike,Mar 31 2005, 12:27 PM
She did not suffer I assure you. She was braindead... unaware of anything... what was cruel is the fact that her parents kept her alive for so long. There was no chance at all of her ever having anything remotely close to a normal life of any sorts... her parents kept her alive for their own selfish reasons, her husband said she did not want to live if anything like that happened to her. I dont think he was making that up... I wouldnt want to live life as a vegetable, would you?
But isn't there still a question of whether or not she could feel all this pain? Haven't you guys heard of the people on daytime TV that say they can here and feel everything when in a coma but can't physically move their body or mouth to communicate with the people operating on them? Scary stuff...
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by flitcroft,Mar 31 2005, 09:04 PM
But isn't there still a question of whether or not she could feel all this pain? Haven't you guys heard of the people on daytime TV that say they can here and feel everything when in a coma but can't physically move their body or mouth to communicate with the people operating on them? Scary stuff...
Those people still have a cerebral cortex.
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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Im sure she could feel pain, but shes was not able to acknowledge it or comprehend what it was. She was a vegetable, there in body but not in mind. Still a sad story. She said she wouldnt want to live like that before the incident happened
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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Right, that's why to me lethal injection for someone 100% guaranteed to starve to death sounds like a humane option. Definitely a sad story.
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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Truth be told, she died 15 years ago of a heart attack. She was resuscitated, literally brought back from the dead, as are all recepients of CPR excpt she had been down too long and the brain had been irreparably and extensively destroyed. The thinking, feeling part. The lower stem functions were still going. She was not in a coma which is the result of trauma without anoxia, oxygen deprivation.
Going deeper into the story...the parents had encouraged the husband to get on with his life, he even introduced his ladyfriends to them.
There was no insurance settlement left to speak of...it all went ot her care. And the length of time from discontinuance of treatment to finla death has to be a testament to the care she was given before.
There were rumors of abuse from before the accident, healed rib fractures and a wrist, IIRC. Yet the doctors who examined her never brought this up as a factor in their defense at the malpractice trial.
For a good, objective review of this, check out wikedpedia.
The parents were wrong in this case, certainly legally, and probavley ethically and morally as well. Congress overstepped its bounds getting involved. Bush was the peultimate hypocrite, flying to Washington to sign the bill. Maybe he should have been as diligiebt in August 2001 when he received a briefing that bin Laden was planning to attack the US within the country. As public opinion turned, he became exceptionally quiet about this.
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Wow CPR to Bin Laden... that's quite a leap in that post
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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ok....
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ajlafleche,Mar 31 2005, 06:21 PM
Bush was the peultimate hypocrite . . . .
Presumably this contains a typo and was intended to read penultimate.

"Penultimate" means "next to last", as in, "November is the penultimate month of the year."

Should Bush be the next-to-last hypocrite, I wonder who the last hypocrite is.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by magician,Mar 31 2005, 11:06 PM
Presumably this contains a typo and was intended to read penultimate.

"Penultimate" means "next to last", as in, "November is the penultimate month of the year."

Should Bush be the next-to-last hypocrite, I wonder who the last hypocrite is.
My bad...make that ultimate.
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