TV and Movies
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TV and Movies
Maybe someone can help me understand what is going on in NY and Hollywood.
It seems like TV shows are getting cancelled because they are too expensive to produce. Movies are getting more expensive to see because budgets are skyrocketing and the end product isnt selling as well.
Is it just me, or do most media outlets need to just cut their figures across the board by 30%? or more.
When you pay 1 actor $20 million for a single film, that really cuts into even a $100M budget. And then the movie will probably flop (ex. Nick Cage) why not allow them to profit share? what not make the entertainment industry completely profit driven compensation? all the way down to the crew. if a movie makes a ton, everyone gets paid well, if it flops, well, then noone has to eat the losses from another Jennifer Lopez movie.
When TV stars get $400k to $1M PER EPISODE, that makes a season VERY expensive. Shouldnt series actors get less, because it is consistent money versus the sporadic movie income?
When there are 600 channels out there how do you fill them with shows and pay for them with advertising?
Why should actors be worth hundreds of millions of dollars?
Why did NBC pay $3.5billion for the weather channel?
Why do we need 10 24/7 news stations?
It seems like the execs are shoving content in our faces and in the end, we end up overpaying for the good to subsidize the bad.
I think media will need to restructure its pay structure/scale and business scope if it wants to survive. unfortunately, it will cost the average person money and jobs for them to figure this out.
It seems like TV shows are getting cancelled because they are too expensive to produce. Movies are getting more expensive to see because budgets are skyrocketing and the end product isnt selling as well.
Is it just me, or do most media outlets need to just cut their figures across the board by 30%? or more.
When you pay 1 actor $20 million for a single film, that really cuts into even a $100M budget. And then the movie will probably flop (ex. Nick Cage) why not allow them to profit share? what not make the entertainment industry completely profit driven compensation? all the way down to the crew. if a movie makes a ton, everyone gets paid well, if it flops, well, then noone has to eat the losses from another Jennifer Lopez movie.
When TV stars get $400k to $1M PER EPISODE, that makes a season VERY expensive. Shouldnt series actors get less, because it is consistent money versus the sporadic movie income?
When there are 600 channels out there how do you fill them with shows and pay for them with advertising?
Why should actors be worth hundreds of millions of dollars?
Why did NBC pay $3.5billion for the weather channel?
Why do we need 10 24/7 news stations?
It seems like the execs are shoving content in our faces and in the end, we end up overpaying for the good to subsidize the bad.
I think media will need to restructure its pay structure/scale and business scope if it wants to survive. unfortunately, it will cost the average person money and jobs for them to figure this out.
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The same could be said for sports.
As long as the public is willing to shell out $50 bleacher seats and accept a steady diet of Momma's American Survivor Bachelor Millionaire Talent Deal shows, that's made on the cheap, we'll keep getting that garbage instead of even marginally well scripted programming.
As long as the public is willing to shell out $50 bleacher seats and accept a steady diet of Momma's American Survivor Bachelor Millionaire Talent Deal shows, that's made on the cheap, we'll keep getting that garbage instead of even marginally well scripted programming.
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Originally Posted by ajlafleche' date='Jan 5 2009, 10:03 AM
...and accept a steady diet of Momma's American Survivor Bachelor Millionaire Talent Deal shows...
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MTV and VH1 should die..............that shit is so poisonous and bad for the world
just go back to videos and commercials and let the world live without all that other crap
The OC, Hills and my super sweet 16 are going to singlehandedly destroy the world...forget Hammas and terroist bombings, these shows are destroying the youth of the world right in front of eyes and we are laughing right along with them.
The producers of those shows and all the others on MTV shoudl die in a fire
just go back to videos and commercials and let the world live without all that other crap
The OC, Hills and my super sweet 16 are going to singlehandedly destroy the world...forget Hammas and terroist bombings, these shows are destroying the youth of the world right in front of eyes and we are laughing right along with them.
The producers of those shows and all the others on MTV shoudl die in a fire
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Originally Posted by PrimoGen' date='Jan 5 2009, 12:30 PM
MTV and VH1 should die..............that shit is so poisonous and bad for the world
just go back to videos and commercials and let the world live without all that other crap
The OC, Hills and my super sweet 16 are going to singlehandedly destroy the world...forget Hammas and terroist bombings, these shows are destroying the youth of the world right in front of eyes and we are laughing right along with them.
just go back to videos and commercials and let the world live without all that other crap
The OC, Hills and my super sweet 16 are going to singlehandedly destroy the world...forget Hammas and terroist bombings, these shows are destroying the youth of the world right in front of eyes and we are laughing right along with them.
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getting them young with nickelodeon (remember how all their shows would end with rap music?)
holding them in their tweens (mtv + bet + cmt = suburban, urban, and country)
still won't let go in their 20s (vh1, comedy central, mtv2, spike)
and if you pay attention to the advertisements, they push the same crap on all demographics. all the kids are wearing the same AE or A&F or old navy or whatever else crap cloths, drinking a sprite, tying up their lugs or sketchers.
god bless the corporate dollar.
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Hollywood is waking up to the fact that a good story beats a big name actor, and costs less to boot. You're seeing less big name actors anymore, Tom Cruise and Will Smith being about the only two that continue to star in yearly big-budget films.
Still, 90% of what's produced is crap - people in showbiz prefer to follow formula rather than quality.
Still, 90% of what's produced is crap - people in showbiz prefer to follow formula rather than quality.
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Originally Posted by Saki GT' date='Jan 5 2009, 01:00 PM
Will Smith....continue to star in yearly big-budget films.
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Television has been ruined by idiots who watch "reality" shows.
I am not talking about educational shows that put someone in a survival situation or show you how to fix something, but shows that put a bunch of posing morons in a room and film them conspiring against each other and getting into fights.
A well written and inventive show like my favorite LOST, will still always be profitable because people will watch and buy lots of dvd's. But other shows that are expensive, you better be GOOD enough for people to invest time in the show and perhaps money into the dvd's or you are gone.
Some shows that are critically acclaimed and sell lots of DVD's make money but still get cancelled. Take Arrested Development for example. Sold a TON on DVD and imho the best comedy ever on television. The network screwed it up by moving the timeslot every other day, and for the most part, the show was to smart for the average TV watching moron.
I am not talking about educational shows that put someone in a survival situation or show you how to fix something, but shows that put a bunch of posing morons in a room and film them conspiring against each other and getting into fights.
A well written and inventive show like my favorite LOST, will still always be profitable because people will watch and buy lots of dvd's. But other shows that are expensive, you better be GOOD enough for people to invest time in the show and perhaps money into the dvd's or you are gone.
Some shows that are critically acclaimed and sell lots of DVD's make money but still get cancelled. Take Arrested Development for example. Sold a TON on DVD and imho the best comedy ever on television. The network screwed it up by moving the timeslot every other day, and for the most part, the show was to smart for the average TV watching moron.