what do you guys think of these paintings :)
Originally Posted by hapa,Oct 21 2004, 05:48 PM
If you beleive that then you probably sleep with your closet door closed so the boogeyman won't come out in the middle of the night to jump on you!
haha russian 
OK, so if we assume the images posted are all "unadulterated," then what do they tell us? Since evrey picture has a different type of object in the sky, and not all of them even show an object in the sky, and each object we are supposed to be going gaga over is different than any of the others, it appears that these images merely show objects. The fact that these objects were not prominient features in some of the paintings implies that they were not anything other than background detail. Since these are paintings, it is safe to say these objects weren't actually in the sky at the time the painting was made, unlike a photograqph. As such, since we are already acknowledging that these objects were not necessarily present during the entire process of painting, how much of the images are artistic license and how much is a realistic representation of fact?
If you make the case that ufo sightings today are not entirely due to human aircraft, then it would make sense that there were some such sightings long before humans developed flight. This does not "prove" the existence of aliens, since there are any number of atmospheric and celestial phenomenon that cause awe and wonder to this day. Falling stars, comets, sundogs, the sun and moon, stars, supernovae, and others I cannot think of offhand all occur independent of sentient force. Any number of which, lacking an adequate scientific explanation, can fall into the UFO category. I would expect an artist to fill details of the unknown in a creative manner, perhaps more so than a 20th century scholar. The depiction of an image in the sky of a painting is an indication of the artist's license more than a documentation of visitation by aliens. I used to have a mural of a castle in the sky hanging inmy bedroom. It never once occurred to me the artist was painting an accurate depiction of a castle he once saw floating around the atmosphere.
This image looks like some form of rice cooker to me:

Since I cannot read any of the Eastern scripts, I hesitate to assume what the writing says, or to assume that any of it is accurate transcription of writing found on the pictured object. Nothing in the image implies to me the thing could fly under its own power. I could easily use this image to "prove" that rice was cooked in Asia back in history
I have seen paintings depicting the sun as a chariot driven by a humanoid being. Is this "proof" that the sun is really a chariot, as observed by a Mediterranean artist?
It is no strange coincidence that various artistic depictions show circular objects in the sky, since outside of clouds and birds, the majority of objects appearing in the sky are indeed circular, appearing as disks. It is foolish to look at artistic renderings of these phenomena as irrefutable evidence of flying saucers, when they could be anything. Some of the images posted above could be renderings of some perceived Godly intervention, or merely stylitic depictions of historical comet sightings. Even if the creators of the artwork were indeed documenting alien visitation they witnessed, there really isn't enough evidence in the images to make any kind of determination as to what the original vessel actually looked like, or the flight characteristics. Without any context, the images could be showing almost anything from hot air balloons to meteors, arguably a more common occurrance than alien vistiation. At least, we have more evidence of historical comets and meteors than we do of beings from Lecton 5 checking out the medieval hotties
In actual point of fact, there is a ton more anecdotal evidence pointing to the existence of a deity or deities than there is of sentient beings from another solar system visiting planet earth. If one wishes to make the leap that what people on earth think of as a god are actually aliens, I guess that is their choice, but there is quite literally, no evidence of this, so it is far more of a illogical assumption than believing in God. Heck, there is a larger body of folklore concerning vampires and werewolves than there is aliens, so if one maintains aliens exist, one must also acknowledge the existence of Lestat and lycanthropy (both of which are fictions, thank you very much
).

OK, so if we assume the images posted are all "unadulterated," then what do they tell us? Since evrey picture has a different type of object in the sky, and not all of them even show an object in the sky, and each object we are supposed to be going gaga over is different than any of the others, it appears that these images merely show objects. The fact that these objects were not prominient features in some of the paintings implies that they were not anything other than background detail. Since these are paintings, it is safe to say these objects weren't actually in the sky at the time the painting was made, unlike a photograqph. As such, since we are already acknowledging that these objects were not necessarily present during the entire process of painting, how much of the images are artistic license and how much is a realistic representation of fact?
If you make the case that ufo sightings today are not entirely due to human aircraft, then it would make sense that there were some such sightings long before humans developed flight. This does not "prove" the existence of aliens, since there are any number of atmospheric and celestial phenomenon that cause awe and wonder to this day. Falling stars, comets, sundogs, the sun and moon, stars, supernovae, and others I cannot think of offhand all occur independent of sentient force. Any number of which, lacking an adequate scientific explanation, can fall into the UFO category. I would expect an artist to fill details of the unknown in a creative manner, perhaps more so than a 20th century scholar. The depiction of an image in the sky of a painting is an indication of the artist's license more than a documentation of visitation by aliens. I used to have a mural of a castle in the sky hanging inmy bedroom. It never once occurred to me the artist was painting an accurate depiction of a castle he once saw floating around the atmosphere.
This image looks like some form of rice cooker to me:

Since I cannot read any of the Eastern scripts, I hesitate to assume what the writing says, or to assume that any of it is accurate transcription of writing found on the pictured object. Nothing in the image implies to me the thing could fly under its own power. I could easily use this image to "prove" that rice was cooked in Asia back in history

I have seen paintings depicting the sun as a chariot driven by a humanoid being. Is this "proof" that the sun is really a chariot, as observed by a Mediterranean artist?
It is no strange coincidence that various artistic depictions show circular objects in the sky, since outside of clouds and birds, the majority of objects appearing in the sky are indeed circular, appearing as disks. It is foolish to look at artistic renderings of these phenomena as irrefutable evidence of flying saucers, when they could be anything. Some of the images posted above could be renderings of some perceived Godly intervention, or merely stylitic depictions of historical comet sightings. Even if the creators of the artwork were indeed documenting alien visitation they witnessed, there really isn't enough evidence in the images to make any kind of determination as to what the original vessel actually looked like, or the flight characteristics. Without any context, the images could be showing almost anything from hot air balloons to meteors, arguably a more common occurrance than alien vistiation. At least, we have more evidence of historical comets and meteors than we do of beings from Lecton 5 checking out the medieval hotties

In actual point of fact, there is a ton more anecdotal evidence pointing to the existence of a deity or deities than there is of sentient beings from another solar system visiting planet earth. If one wishes to make the leap that what people on earth think of as a god are actually aliens, I guess that is their choice, but there is quite literally, no evidence of this, so it is far more of a illogical assumption than believing in God. Heck, there is a larger body of folklore concerning vampires and werewolves than there is aliens, so if one maintains aliens exist, one must also acknowledge the existence of Lestat and lycanthropy (both of which are fictions, thank you very much
).
Originally Posted by KaiWang,Oct 24 2004, 05:38 PM
i saw a saucer in the sky once while driving..
then i blacked out
next day i woke up in the middle of a grass field with a bleeding anus
then i blacked out
next day i woke up in the middle of a grass field with a bleeding anus
I was testing out my new saucer and date rape drug kit.
Originally Posted by KaiWang,Oct 24 2004, 06:38 PM
i saw a saucer in the sky once while driving..
then i blacked out
next day i woke up in the middle of a grass field with a bleeding anus and a smile on my face
then i blacked out
next day i woke up in the middle of a grass field with a bleeding anus and a smile on my face
Many years ago, (early 1970's) when I was working in a store that sold Panasonic products near Worcester MA, a guy we all believed to be a Texan was having trouble with his stereo. The people who did our service could find no problem with the unit. His response to that has influenced me to this day...
Which I repeat to this premise:
"You know what Ah say to ta that? Ah say Boh-shit!"
Which I repeat to this premise:
"You know what Ah say to ta that? Ah say Boh-shit!"
Originally Posted by no_really,Oct 22 2004, 04:30 PM
if one maintains aliens exist, one must also acknowledge the existence of Lestat and lycanthropy
I do believe that there is a high probability that other life forms exist, considering how many planetary systems are out there. Read some of the scientific theories by Isaac Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke, Carl Sagan, etc.
It may not be life as we know it, and it may never have visited Earth, but that doesn't mean it's not out there. While we cannot prove that alien life exists, it makes more sense to assume it does than to assume we're the only life forms in the universe.
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