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At what point do drugs become morally wrong? Your opinions.

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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 12:24 AM
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Default At what point do drugs become morally wrong? Your opinions.

I, personally, believe that drugs are "bad" once they become physically addictive.... becoming a center of daily activity.

Also, lets try out best to leave the legal issues out of this. Yes, it is a good reason not to do drugs - you go to jail, pay fines, go on probation, ect. However, this only holds water if you do illegal drugs, in a place where they are against the law.

Lets try out best to think of other reasons or whatnot.



weed
beer, ect
cigs
heroin
(cant decide) coke
lsd
short trip drugs (salvia)
some pills (dont have time or patience to list)
other pills (dont have time or patience to list)

But I guess its not really so much the drug, but the effect.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 12:30 AM
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The jail issue is interesting...but it can be an effect that would match up with the "becoming center of daily activity" because when in jail you can not perform your normal activities or duties.

Solely aruging for the sake of arguing I dont particularly view drugs as bad until they control your life or affect your ability to perform nessecary duties (care for dependents, hold job, etc).

I would argue for legilization of nearly all drugs as we already have numerous legal drugs which are incredibly addictive and damaging. The problem with this is people who abuse them/can not handle effects. However this is also a problem with people abusing legal drugs (driving drunk is a perfect fit.) So while one may argue people should do lsd or similar psychoactive drug because they may do something they may injure themselves or another that argument holds true on alcohol.

Another point is the current drug education services are doing a horribly bad job and I see this first hand. If they educated people about the ACTUAL hazards of drugs and the realistic effects I belive more peope would make a decision. It is the "all drugs are bad" mentality that makes people want to try them.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 03:59 AM
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Morally ....

Drugs use is morally wrong if they are procured or used in an "illegally" or they are obtained legally but used obusively or outside the prescribed norms. Just my opinion of course!!

One can debate the moral relavency of just about anything ,but that doesn't make it right just because someone thinks it is ok.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 06:47 AM
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Define morality and then I'll answer you on your terms.

Personally, I view morality not only as a function of how you affect others, but also how you affect yourself. As such, drugs have an adverse effect from the getgo and therefore are, in my opinion, absolutely morally wrong, period.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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I really don't know how I define morality...just the we all have morals that we live by...just like some think an abortion is morally wrong, while others dont.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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I think Drugs become morally wrong when they threaten either your life, or inversely, those around you. Stay away from the hard drugs because those could kill you, but I don't find anything wrong with beer, weed, along those lines, as long as it is in minimal doses, and you are not hurting anyone..
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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In my book, drugs become morally wrong when they lead (either directly or indirectly) to an adverse effect on others. Some people can handle certain activities better than others, and drugs are no different.

I've tried just about every drug at least once, and a few a lot more often. They may not necessarily be good for me, but if I'm smoking some weed and sitting around playing video games in the privacy of my room, then it's no one else's ing business. Now, if I smoke some weed, suddenly decide that it'd be fun to run out and kill an old lady, then it becomes other people's business.

Likewise, if I decide to go get some weed and smoke it myself, then I don't see any problem. On the other hand, if I force someone else to smoke weed, then that's morally wrong. For me, it's ultimately a question of whether drug use, or any other activity for that matter, affects anyone else in an undesirable manner.

The rule for me is, "if you can't stand the heat then get the out of the kitchen". Just some like people can handle owning a firearm while others can't, some people can handle drugs (more specifically certain drugs) and others can't...if you're one of the people who uses drugs and then becomes a complete rampaging idiot, then you shouldn't be using them in the first place.

Personally, I don't find drugs morally wrong simply because they're not good for the user. If that were the criteria for morality, then we'd all need to lay off the red meat, coffee, and countless other everyday luxuries.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by cyber_x
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I've tried just about every drug at least once, and a few a lot more often.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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I think it becomes morally wrong when you decide you should start profiting from it i.e. start selling it...
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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Legal or illegal... Right and wrong.... Moral or immoral. Laws or legislation... Where do you start with this one. What's right or proper has nothing to do with "law." Just because it is legal to smoke or drink doesn't make it right, proper or moral.

But because pot is illegal doesn't make it wrong.

There is so much controversy over "consentual" crimes: gambling, drugs, prostitution etc. Where do you begin?

You can't legalize drugs because of the "law machine" that runs in this country. We would put 75% of prison guards and all the support staff out of work! And the police? What would they have to do?! Everybody be getting tickets for 2 over the limit...

IMO it is not morally wrong to do drugs, alcohol, tobacco, high fat foods, or unprotected sex... Just stupid.
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