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I would use your shop 1-3 times a month
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Would you use my DIY auto shop?

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Old May 5, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted H
What I would recommend doing is offering some sort of membership like system in replacement of or in addition to your hourly rates.

Some sort of hourly rate could get them in the door, membership will keep them coming back. Then it becomes as though you're renting a bay, or a sort of time-share of a bay.
This is a VERY good idea, but it would only work with people who intend to use it quite a bit. This could be good to market towards those type of people...the people who picked 9 times a month on my poll The problem is that most people have a lot of memberships they are a part of like netflix, xm radio, sirius radio, just to name a few and they're trying to keep them down because it all adds up. So someone really has to see this as an investment to be a part of my membership. I like the idea and just might use this. Thanks!
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Old May 5, 2011 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 33ReaZons
Originally Posted by Ted H' timestamp='1304513294' post='20536869
What I would recommend doing is offering some sort of membership like system in replacement of or in addition to your hourly rates.

Some sort of hourly rate could get them in the door, membership will keep them coming back. Then it becomes as though you're renting a bay, or a sort of time-share of a bay.
This is a VERY good idea, but it would only work with people who intend to use it quite a bit. This could be good to market towards those type of people...the people who picked 9 times a month on my poll The problem is that most people have a lot of memberships they are a part of like netflix, xm radio, sirius radio, just to name a few and they're trying to keep them down because it all adds up. So someone really has to see this as an investment to be a part of my membership. I like the idea and just might use this. Thanks!
No problem. I think after reading some other posts the important thing to reconsider here is target audience... Perhaps it's not terribly viable to think of this as a cheaper option to service. 1. It forces you to keep your costs down at a potentially impossibly low level. 2. You're going to have the customers who are just trying to save a buck--which is certainly okay in many situations, but consider some of the scenarios painted above. 3. More conceptually: people are there for cost savings not fun.

If you alter your target audience to focus more entirely on the hobbyist, you will be able to charge more... People will be doing it for fun, rather than to save a buck. That's where membership options come in... Or better yet, here's an option: some sort of charge-by-the-project rate. Like a short membership.

Say I come in and I intend to redo my stereo system. You would need to design a stereo system package where I pay... $175 for unlimited use of your equipment for the project.... BUT unlimited would have to still have stipulations. If it takes them longer the X visits, or X time, or whatever limiter you want to put it on, then they must either extend their package, or pay your mechanic to do it, or help them do it.

Someone who is installing an audio system for the first time doesn't know how long it will take... But here the option actually is cheaper still. A shop would be $500 or so...
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Old May 5, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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I thought this would be a good idea one time long ago. I might find myself needing to use something like this maybe 1 or 2 times in a lifetime not on a monthly basis.

But I can see the problem of being an owner of a business like this. Joe Blow comes in with some piece of crap trying to save some money by doing his own engine or tranny work. He pulls the engine/tranny screws something up, now he has parts all over your shop, needs more parts then he thought, has no money to buy the parts he needs. You can not easily move this mess out of the shop. The stall is taken so the next customer can't use it. You move the dudes car, he blows a gasket, he threatens to sue, claims you did damage to his car. I just thought that after a while you'd have broken unclaimed cars and parts all over the place, the real chance that an untrained moron will hurt himself in your shop, and lawsuits.

I'd love a spot to use a lift once in a while, but I would not want to be the business owner of a place like that.

The shop on base that I would go to would charge something like a $5 dollar storage fee. No car was allowed to stay inside the shop and would be parked in a gated parking lot. The car was usually pushed out by hand, or they had this little forklift with a tire mounted to the rear to push amd pull cars out. If they can't pay up eventually then put a lien on that bish!
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Old May 5, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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This topic comes up every so often.. from what I gather, insurance on a DIY shop is a large preventative barrier and the reason we don't see more, or any of these.
I work for a pretty large E&S insurance company, and I can't even imagine the liability that would be on something like this let alone if we would even be willing to write something along these lines. As soon as you put your business's liability in the hands of customers by giving them access to your tools, lifts, and facilities your rates would go through the roof.
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Old May 5, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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This topic comes up every so often.. from what I gather, insurance on a DIY shop is a large preventative barrier and the reason we don't see more, or any of these.
I work for a pretty large E&S insurance company, and I can't even imagine the liability that would be on something like this let alone if we would even be willing to write something along these lines. As soon as you put your business's liability in the hands of customers by giving them access to your tools, lifts, and facilities your rates would go through the roof.
what is your position in that company you work for? What I know is that there are growing businesses alike that have insurance companies behind them. I guess I just need to find out which one cause right now, it's not a matter of will a company back me up, it's which one?
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Old May 7, 2011 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted H
What I would recommend doing is offering some sort of membership like system in replacement of or in addition to your hourly rates.

Some sort of hourly rate could get them in the door, membership will keep them coming back. Then it becomes as though you're renting a bay, or a sort of time-share of a bay.
you definitely want to start off with a membership. It'll keep the ricers out of your shop

btw, what's a lathe?
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Old May 7, 2011 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by unethikl
Originally Posted by Ted H' timestamp='1304513294' post='20536869
What I would recommend doing is offering some sort of membership like system in replacement of or in addition to your hourly rates.

Some sort of hourly rate could get them in the door, membership will keep them coming back. Then it becomes as though you're renting a bay, or a sort of time-share of a bay.
you definitely want to start off with a membership. It'll keep the ricers out of your shop

btw, what's a lathe?

yup,this is sounding more and more like a good idea when I think about the details.
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Old May 9, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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I've walked around most small garages in my area asking if I could use their lift. They all turned me down for "safety" reasons
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Old May 12, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 33ReaZons
I need your input whether you're an all around ASE mechanic or someone who doesn't know what a lathe is.

Description of my DIY auto shop:

A place where you can...
  • use our lifts to do anything from oil change to engine swap
  • mount your own tires
  • have a room dedicated to electrical maintenance
  • paint your car
  • have a room dedicated to spray painting
  • store your parts for free as long as you plan to use us for the install
  • use to ship large items to reduce residential fees, as long as you use us for the install
  • use our flat stalls for maintenance not requiring a lift

Additionally I will offer other services like
  • free towing to my shop
  • free advice from an ASE mechanic
  • the option to leave it to the pro's if you can't finish it (for a price)
  • free online access to your car specific manual
  • the option to have us diagnose your car but you repair it
  • late hours and open on sundays cause we know you work your a$$ off from 9-5pm during the week

Also, if you started a job and forgot to buy an essential part at your local parts store, we'll be glad to make a parts run for you for free!

stalls with lifts are $12.50/hr
flat stalls are $9.50/hr

Now that you have a feel of what I offer, please think about how many times you've thought to yourself, "man I wish I had a garage to do (your mod) in, and use the poll to give your honest input on whether or not you would find my services useful. If you want, throw some constructive criticism and ideas or tell me what services you like best!
I can't see in which one of the 50 states this would be legal in. You would never EVER be able to get your business insured, so the first time someone takes their arm off with a tire machine, you are homeless. You will never be able to open such a business. Ever notice why repair shops don't allow customers into the work bays? Insurance! Your liability would be astronomical.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 04:56 AM
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i love the idea and price, but i do hours and hours of work a week so i have to have my own set up.
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