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Old 07-03-2007, 03:18 PM
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jtpassat....the data from the windows is not lost. It is still there, and is easily recovered with a bump in contrast.

Read ANY photoshop tutorial, and while there are 100 different ways of converting to B&W, ALL of them will tell you NOT to desaturate or grayscale the image.
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What about the B&W tool in CS3. Has anyone played around with that?
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Thank you for sharing NFR
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by robs04s2k,Jul 3 2007, 06:18 PM
What about the B&W tool in CS3. Has anyone played around with that?
Im not huge on CS3. I have that and CS2 installed right now, including both sets of Lightrooms, and I find myself clicking on CS2. IMHO, CS2 is perfect. If it aint broke, dont fix it.
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Jul 3 2007, 06:18 PM
jtpassat....the data from the windows is not lost. It is still there, and is easily recovered with a bump in contrast.

Read ANY photoshop tutorial, and while there are 100 different ways of converting to B&W, ALL of them will tell you NOT to desaturate or grayscale the image.
I won't argue with you there, I'm no photoshop guru... I'm making observations based on the materials produced.
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Originally Posted by e3opian,Jul 3 2007, 09:30 AM






This conversion seems to have worked a lot better. Let's see if you can tell which is using this method and which is a simple desaturation.
Is the second photo my way?
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Yep!
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I prefer a faster way that I think is a little more flexible too. Add two hue/saturation layers. Keep the top one's mode at normal and change the lower one to Color. Open the top adjustment layer and change saturation to -100. Open the lower adjustment layer and slide Hue left and right to change the black and white conversion in real time in 360 steps. Since this is all done with non-destructive layers you can make changes at any time in the future, create layer comps or folders with multiple conversion examples, turn down the opacity of the individual layers, or selectively mask out portions of the layers. With some repetition this way takes about 5-10 seconds and produces great results without the need to leave RGB (which, really is sort of pointless if you are starting with an RGB image).

Here's Adobe's writeup on the technique, complete with step-by-step screenshots:
http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/photosho...s2mrblkwht.html
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Originally Posted by e3opian,Jul 3 2007, 06:05 AM
Just tried this method out... I think I'll play with it a bit more with different source images.

Original (Random Flickr image with CC rights)


Image > Adjustments > Desaturate (CTRL+SHIFT+U)


The above method.
Here's a conversion using the method I described but it's just one of 360 initial choices you have.

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This is the method I use, which is fairly quick

When I make adjustments, I prefer to make a new layer so that I can always go back and tweak it w/o ruining the photo when too many adjustments are made and you want to revert back to the original shot.

layer
new adjustment layer
channel mixer
enter
click on monochrome on bottom left
red 24%
green 37%
blue 39%

I use this method to desaturate photos by tweaking the opacity.
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