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View Poll Results: Do you make your images in camera, on on the PC?
I always post process my images.
43.75%
I do lots of post processing, because.
18.75%
I do as little post possing as possible.
37.50%
I never do post processing.
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Penforhire,Feb 7 2009, 08:34 AM
I fall much more on your side of the argument but even I will agree there comes a point when an overprocessed image is no longer "photography." No, I can't define that threshold with any satisfaction but it exists, at least for me. If you agree then you are a purist at some level.


however, it takes alot of post processing to cross my threshold
Old Feb 7, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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[QUOTE=Penforhire,Feb 4 2009, 04:58 PM]Red, you can upload an actual custom "tone mapping" curve to the D70s (and D70 I believe?).
Old Feb 7, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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[QUOTE=NFRs2000NYC,Feb 5 2009, 01:13 AM]My point was that RAW format is technically, imcomplete, and REQUIRES post processing.
Old Feb 7, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bluextc,Feb 5 2009, 08:42 AM
I don't know why everyone is so caught up wth this. who cares about film right now. everything is digital and the truth is you have to process every shot. take RAW shots and turn them in to your editor or news agency, they will toss out your assignments if they don't bitch you out first.

purist? in my opinion that's just someone who is unwilling to keep up with the times or too stubborn to accept the changes in industry. since digital, things have been advancing pretty fast and as a photographer you must study and keep up wtih everything that's going on within your field if not all of them.
The point of this poll was to let us get to know one another a little better, and I find your view quite refreshing.

Like you, I can't understand why so many (though IMO, hardly "everyone") is "so caught up in this," but obvoiusly some people are convinced that their way is the only way and that disagreement can only come from morons. j/k

To answer your question about film, there are still plenty of people around who care about film. There are many things that are much easier to do with film, and the characteristics of images made digitally are quite different from the characteristics of digital images. Further, this isn't a "Digital Photography Forum," it's a "Photography Forum," and we have members here who still shoot 4"x5" sheet film in wooden field cameras. If you want an all digital forum maybe you should ask the moderators to start one, hahaha, or you could ask them to ban all the idiots who still shoot film. j/k

It's just one man's opinion, but I think you need to lighten up a little, and if you don't enjoy the discussion, just stay out of it and it shouldn't bother you.

"Purist" can be defined a number of ways, and if you look back at my earlier post, I said as much. It can mean many different things, and we're probably all purists in some ways. LOL, you're a purist when it comes to digital, because you make no allowence for film. That makes you a digital purist, and I don't see any way that this can be seen as a bad thing. Given that both the things you have criticized in others, can be viewed from other perspectives and seen to apply to you, perhaps you might want to reconsider some of your thinking, not because I disagree, but because I agree, and think this is all a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.

The only thing you've said here that I strongly disagree with relates to EDITORS, and becasue too many people are arguing about other stuff in this thread already, I think we'll do better if we have that discussion in another thread. Besides, to discuss editors I have to address more than photography, and I think it might be an interesting topic unto itself. I think the conversation will be fun and informative (to all, myself included), and hope you'll join me in the discussion.

I'll go start that thread right now, and with the full hope that it won't get as picky as some of the things have gotten in this thread. There is a lot less subjectivity involved in the way we have to interact with editors (and other clients), so it should be a less volitle subject. LOL, and if I'm wrong about that, you guys can take me out behind the barn had give me a good swift kick in the butt.

Please join me in getting the "Editor" thread off to a good start.
Old Feb 7, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Penforhire,Feb 7 2009, 11:34 AM
I fall much more on your side of the argument but even I will agree there comes a point when an overprocessed image is no longer "photography." No, I can't define that threshold with any satisfaction but it exists, at least for me. If you agree then you are a purist at some level.
An image that originates from a camera is a photograph - regardless of post-processing. The amount of PP determines the type of Art it would be considered.

IMO.
Old Feb 7, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Photography is a distinct type of art. If I take a photographic image and apply something like a Difference Clouds filter to it, it 'aint a photograph any more. It just became abstract art. But I'll agree it is a thicket of semantics.
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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Oooookay. Too much text in this thread and not enough pictures. j/k

I voted "I always pp" because I shoot RAW. Besides that, I would still prefer to do at least SOME PP before uploading, distributing, etc. The amount of PP work depends on what the picture will be used for. Less is better because editing takes time and time = money.

Glad nobody voted "I do no PP" because I was going to say they're severely limiting themselves in digital imaging.
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mmagic,Feb 7 2009, 01:46 PM
i feel that if youre going to put forth some effort into shooting, then you owe it to yourself to go the whole way and do some post work to bring out the pictures in all of its glory. this is especially true if youre going to show off your work in a thread, or portfolio. the reality is we see a ton of threads with the phrase "photoshoot" in it, so we click on it only to be disappointed. no one wants that.
Thats exactly right. There is a big difference between photography and snapshooting.
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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I started this thread so we could have a little fun, but I never expected to learn so much along the way.

Seeing the different ways we define identical terms has been fun.
When I realized that I didn't know what the words "photography" and "snapshot" meant, I decided to go to Webster to see what they had to say about it.

Merriam-Webster - photography

Merriam-Webster - shapshot

Hahaha, in the end, I think all I'm sure of is that we all use the terms in somewhat different ways; I'm certainly not convinced that any one person's definition is any better than anyone else's (not even Webster's definition ).
 
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