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JagoBlitz 10-05-2019 08:09 AM

2000 AP1 sway bars in 2004 AP2?
 
Hello,

does anyone have experience with 2000 AP1 sway bars in the 2004 AP2?
I run Ohlins 10k/10k and I would like to reduce body roll without compromising the balance of the car too much. My ride height is 13" from hub to fender all around.

In theory this should work, but I hope somebody already did this switch and could report some results.
Thanks.

JagoBlitz


noodels 10-05-2019 10:49 AM

just try a front on with oem wheels :thumbup:

JagoBlitz 10-05-2019 11:18 AM

But that should shift the balance towards understeer...or does it not?

s2000Junky 10-05-2019 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by JagoBlitz (Post 24650296)
But that should shift the balance towards understeer...or does it not?

Yes in theory it would. It would be a typical sway bar combination if say you were running a wider then stock front tire or "square" set up. If your still running a stock or staggers set up then id recommend running the 02-03 rear sway. It basically splits the difference for the rear giving you a good balance while stiffening up total body roll. 00-01 rear sway is rather brutal. Though on an ap2 chasis it may be tamed a bit with the rear toe geometry improvment. Its not a hard swap, you should just experiment and see what you like for the rear. The 00-01 front sway is a no brainer though.

noodels 10-05-2019 11:51 AM

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-br...1183541/page3/

JagoBlitz 10-05-2019 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by s2000Junky (Post 24650300)
Yes in theory it would. It would be a typical sway bar combination if say you were running a wider then stock front tire or "square" set up. If your still running a stock or staggers set up then id recommend running the 02-03 rear sway. It basically splits the difference for the rear giving you a good balance while stiffening up total body roll. 00-01 rear sway is rather brutal. Though on an ap2 chasis it may be tamed a bit with the rear toe geometry improvment. Its not a hard swap, you should just experiment and see what you like for the rear. The 00-01 front sway is a no brainer though.

I am still running 215/245 wheels.

JagoBlitz 10-05-2019 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by noodels (Post 24650302)

I already have the excel sheet for calculation.
That's what I came up with and which made me go for the 2000 AP1 sway bars.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...a143570e9e.png

Acc. to the calculation my original 2004 sway bars would result in an overall balance of 54,3% / 45,7%.
If this is correct, the rear 2000 AP1 sway bar does not have such a huge effect. And it will even tend to understeer a little more than with the 2004 AP2 sway bars.



I am just looking for some real-life feedback.

s2000Junky 10-05-2019 06:12 PM

No it will over steer more with the 00-01 rear sway.

JagoBlitz 10-06-2019 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by s2000Junky (Post 24650373)
No it will over steer more with the 00-01 rear sway.

So, you think the calculations are wrong?
Did you try this on an AP2?

noodels 10-06-2019 02:44 AM

As you have culculations to hand,could you give me my results please. :angel:
Front coils 571<100nm>
rear coils 600 <105nm>
front CR bar 392
rear 04 bar 311


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