Anyone have pics of their car once the springs have had a good time to settle? I am thinking about these and combining them with the Eibach sway bar kit.

 

This is a false assumption. You cannot corner balance a car with lowering springs, nor can you really pick spring rates. Lowering springs are never going to be as good as hypercoil springs on a coilover.

 

he said "lowering springs", not "coilovers", nor "lowering solution".....

seems like you have a false assumption. lol.

 

What I'm trying to point out, dude, is that there is no amount of real performance gain by adding lowering springs. "Best springs every" is a very big assertion, and I disagree entirely based cfap2's assumption that these lowering springs actually benefit the car in anyway, when I know that no one here knows if they really do.

But, what I said above still stands, true springs and an adjustable spring perch, is the only way you will "increase the performance of our cars". Regardless of the brand, spring rate or free length.

 

Lowering a car reduces its centre of gravity and, in theory, will reduce body roll and increase performance. Of course there are many other vaiables and in practice this proves true only to an extent.

It is not possible to corner balance an ordinary spring because for a road car there is generally no real need to - springs are for the most part sold for cars in sets of "front" and "rear" irrespective of whether they are to be used on right of left hand sides. This does not mean they are poor handling cars. Yes you can corner weight a car perfectly with coilovers, and when you're varying the height of a car with a coilover by nature there is a need for adjustment - as should be the case, however then fill up (or empty) 60kg of fuel, put a 100kg driver in the seat and well weight dynamics can change quickly can't they.

Of course coilovers are a better bet than a lowering spring, but a well matched spring to a shock can work wonders.

 

Lowering a car does not reduce body roll. Only stiffer springs and sway bars will do that.

Lowering spring will only be better than stock because you will have a lower CG and possibly less body roll, but you don't get the benefits of a corner balance. This makes more of a difference than you think. If the car won't turn the same left to right, who cares how low your CG is.

 

I agree that corner balancing is beneficial, but take most performance cars in the showroom, they essentially have off the shelf springs that are not adjustable. Do you read many reviews that state to the efffect they turn left well but don't turn right?

 

Showroom floor cars have stock springs. You are talking about replacing the stock springs with something else. Once you lower the car, whatever balance the car had from the factory is now changed. You can't get that back unless you use scales.

 

and, quite honestly, what i said still stands. you're comparing apples to oranges. without a doubt, the ability to tune a coilover system to the driver's liking will be better in any application. but he is claiming best "lowering springs", not best "lowering solution" or best "coilover system".

i see your point with corner balancing, and quite frankly, if i could drop thousands on a decent quality coilover system that gives me the option to corner balance, i would. since not everyone has a printing mill in their garage, i for one, for SURE don't have one... then lowering springs will be what i'm going with, and i would have to agree these are probably the best (comfort vs "performance") lowering springs that i've driven on.

 

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