Added components and still not happy... advice?
Originally Posted by urBan_dK,Apr 22 2009, 01:17 PM
Yep, you are underpowering these speakers. Make sure the crossover is set correctly. Are the tweeters distorting or the mids?
If the mids, set a low pass filter so it doesn't try to produce the lowest frequencies, say 60 hz and below. If it's the tweeters, change the dB on the crossover to a lower setting.
If the mids, set a low pass filter so it doesn't try to produce the lowest frequencies, say 60 hz and below. If it's the tweeters, change the dB on the crossover to a lower setting.
Tweets are fine, maybe even too crispy... its the mids that distort at higher volumes
As far as the amp, I know I could get a new Alpine 4 channel for ~$150... but thats $150 I don't want to spend right now. I'm seeing if I can get an older Alpine 4 channel for $50 or less.
Built in HU amplifiers are already bad, but you picked an Alpine, which has REAAALLY bad amps, even as far as headunits go. If you don't want to amp, you can try upgrading to a Kenwood or Pioneer (best) but the improvement you'll gain may not be worth the effort. The best thing you can do is wire up an amp for real gains.
If you really don't want to trunk mount the amp, another option is mounting it under a seat, although that makes adjusting it really hard, plus I'm not sure if there's room under the seats in an S2000.
Another thing is that you picked the wrong speakers. Some are more power hungry than others, and if you wanted components that would work with less power, you should pick something with a higher sensitivity rating. The standard, cheap, readily available example of such a speaker would be the Infinity Reference lineup.
If you really don't want to trunk mount the amp, another option is mounting it under a seat, although that makes adjusting it really hard, plus I'm not sure if there's room under the seats in an S2000.
Another thing is that you picked the wrong speakers. Some are more power hungry than others, and if you wanted components that would work with less power, you should pick something with a higher sensitivity rating. The standard, cheap, readily available example of such a speaker would be the Infinity Reference lineup.
I'd make a quick check on your input source.
I don't drive my car during the winter months. When I got back into the car, the stereo sounded horrible. I tried all sorts of things with system settings, etc. I was just about to give up and head to the audio place when I thought to checked my ipod. It turns out the eq setting on the ipod was set "tiny speakers." I change the eq to flat, and I was sorted.
I'd still consider getting an amp.
I don't drive my car during the winter months. When I got back into the car, the stereo sounded horrible. I tried all sorts of things with system settings, etc. I was just about to give up and head to the audio place when I thought to checked my ipod. It turns out the eq setting on the ipod was set "tiny speakers." I change the eq to flat, and I was sorted.
I'd still consider getting an amp.
[QUOTE=kamal,Apr 22 2009, 10:25 AM] Only switch on the crossover is for the tweeters and says -3, 0, +3 db... unless I'm missing something I could do on the board itself.
Tweets are fine, maybe even too crispy... its the mids that distort at higher volumes
As far as the amp, I know I could get a new Alpine 4 channel for ~$150... but thats $150 I don't want to spend right now.
Tweets are fine, maybe even too crispy... its the mids that distort at higher volumes
As far as the amp, I know I could get a new Alpine 4 channel for ~$150... but thats $150 I don't want to spend right now.
i bet you are clipping the amp in the head unit, there is no way a head unit will produce 75w, the 12v industry is not regulated to rate outputs evenly, i bet you get no more than 20-25watts from that head unit. on a budget, buy a 4 channel amp, use 2 channels for doors and bridge other 2 channels to a 10" sub, this would increase your sound 100+%
Originally Posted by 2big4aS2000,Apr 22 2009, 06:47 PM
i bet you are clipping the amp in the head unit, there is no way a head unit will produce 75w, the 12v industry is not regulated to rate outputs evenly, i bet you get no more than 20-25watts from that head unit. on a budget, buy a 4 channel amp, use 2 channels for doors and bridge other 2 channels to a 10" sub, this would increase your sound 100+%
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JBL-600-Wat...arQ5fAmplifiers
I got the same version of that AMP in 2 channel from them for $70 shipped. Here is the link to their ebay store, keep an eye out, because that is actually Hk that makes JBL and Infinity selling their remanufactured stuff. You can get some SMOKING deals from them.
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Harman-Audio_C...634Q2ec0Q2em322
Originally Posted by urBan_dK,Apr 22 2009, 06:22 PM
The lows are what take the most watts to create. They'll tend to steal available power to produce the higher frequencies on the mids...which is why a dedicated sub is nice to have.
I'm looking into getting a 4 channel amp bridged to the door speakers, and keeping the idea open of adding a sub... which I don't really want to do, but looks like I might have to.
Originally Posted by Crackerballer,Apr 22 2009, 11:04 PM
That was going to be my suggestion too. But, having said that, let me save you some money.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JBL-600-Wat...arQ5fAmplifiers
I got the same version of that AMP in 2 channel from them for $70 shipped. Here is the link to their ebay store, keep an eye out, because that is actually Hk that makes JBL and Infinity selling their remanufactured stuff. You can get some SMOKING deals from them.
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Harman-Audio_C...634Q2ec0Q2em322
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JBL-600-Wat...arQ5fAmplifiers
I got the same version of that AMP in 2 channel from them for $70 shipped. Here is the link to their ebay store, keep an eye out, because that is actually Hk that makes JBL and Infinity selling their remanufactured stuff. You can get some SMOKING deals from them.
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Harman-Audio_C...634Q2ec0Q2em322




