That was addressed from the get go. That wasn't the problem "you made."

Dude, 3 people have educated you on your ignorance, of which "you opened the door" when you put down GSteg by showing your lack of knowlege on the subject.

Humility can be a good thing, especially when you frequent a forum such as this and intend to help others.

It is what it is, accept it, learn from it, and think before you speak.

 

Ok since you don't know me at all and you haven't even been here a day yet... I don't care if you are MECP Certifed or not. Do you think that gaves you a foot up on me or something?

I can admit you call it something different than me however... You can use the stock speaker basket and cut out the back. It will work just fine... But you wouldn't know that because you haven't tried it... if you you read my posts I told him to install dynamat and what to do... Not that it matters, because G had to go get his friends and told them hey you guy need to back me up here. I know you guys all know each other just by the way you've written your posts.

You guys make me laugh. None of you own an S2000 and your trying to tell me what it should sound like... yeah OK

Those door installs don't impress me... nice try though

and neither does your other work:



Would you like me to teach you some stuff??
Here's my work:




Go back to school...

 

Your soooo funny... did G call you up and say hey yo I need some back up here?

You think I'm wrong because I'd call it a spacer and you call it a baffle. So what. You kids are funny.
I can admit when I'm wrong. But just because when someone does something different doesn't make it wrong.

BTW If you don't own an S why are you here??

 

Those OZ speaker impress though those are nice!

 

Car Audio is car audio is car audio. Each car is different, but there are general similarities. I don't have to own the same car to help someone with car audio.

Dude, you crossed the line by acting the way you did.

I don't know those other guys, but I have tracked their input on other forums, so I know they know what they are talking about, just as I do. The point of his post and our following posts, is to clarify and help the others who are viewing this.

I agree, if you're all about the bling, your install "looks" good. And hey, if having tweeters by your head sounds better to you than having a great soundstage and such, then more power to ya.

Personally, I'd put those very nice Alpine/ScanSpeak D2904 tweeters in kicks or a-pillars, and pair them with some Seas Lotus drivers running active, but that's just me.

I built my system for sound quality, not for showing off. Of which this original post was all about... SQ.

By the way, going through my site and posting other photos, adds to your ability to cross the line. Not cool.

The conversation of which you keep forgetting, was about you putting someone down for introducing knowledge of which cannot be discredited.

 

DK, I know you basically turned the lights on in this forum, that you have constantly helped people here with their questions, and I have no doubt that you could help any S2k owner put together a great system for their needs and budget.

However, I think you are being a little harsh on some people who have started posting here recently. Just because they don't have a lot of experience installing equipment in the S2k and just because they think of or do things a bit differently does not automatically mean they don't know what they are talking about.

Partly it is just a communication issue. It's plain coincidence that the original poster was referring to the XTC baffle while foley suggested an MDF "spacer" baffle. I'm sure that foley, GSteg and focusincali all know what the XTC baffle is (really a misnomer) and how it is different from what they suggested. They would probably agree with you that the best first step would be to ditch it.

These things were just suggestions of things to try for improved sound from a given set of speakers. No one is trying to challenge your ability to get good sound from these cars. But the truth is that the install does matter, and paying attention to things like driver positioning, phase, and panel resonance can yield improvements. My system is proof of this, the biggest improvement came with $18 worth of door wires and connectors and the help and advice of another member you don't like.

If you look on caraudio specific forums like sounddomain, diymobileaudio, etc, you will see these concepts are much more frequently discussed than they are here, where we mostly talk about equipment. Once again, I *really* appreciate what you have contributed to this forum, my own install was made infinitely easier due to your posts and stickies. I just think this forum would be even better if we encourage the ideas of people who love music and have a passion for its reproduction, no matter how they go about chasing that goal.

Peter

 

Thank you PoweredbyCamry.


I am not here to challenge anyone, nor did I call anyone for help because quite frankly, I do not need anyone to reinforce my ideas. Why would my occupation matter? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to distinguish between a sealed enclosure and a baffle. I'm an audio enthusiast. Ask Mark Eldridge, Eric Stevens, Stever Brown, etc what a baffle is. I guarantee you that they will interchange the word baffle and spacers before they say enclosure.

I have a buddy with an s2000 so it's not like I am completely unaware about the car. He has DLS Iridium 6.3 with PPI Art-series amps and such, so he's not a newbie. Even he will say the car needs installation prep to get the most out of the speakers. That's a given for all cars. Some sounds good with a direct swap, but if you can make it better with what you have, why not? Spending more money on higher end components is not an excuse for poor installation.

If you had to turbo your car, would you leave it stock? Or would you prep the car as much as you can to set a good platform? This is my analogy to installation. Prep work is more important than the product itself. I think most of us enthusiasts knows this.

Again, I was just trying to contribute to the forum, opening up suggestions that may improve his setup. Whether he does it or not is up to him. It wouldn't bother me if he decides not to, but for many people, they want to get their money worth. Is it bad that I helped? Or is it because I'm GSteg and you had previous disaggreements with me? I've put it all behind me already. I don't really care if you like my suggestions or not, but if it helps someone down the line, I'm going to post no matter what.

 

As it turns out I think we (GS and I)were both after the same thing but call them different names.
You can call it a baffle, I call it a basic spacer(let's face it its just a stupid piece of MDF)... Maybe I should call it a baffle so it make sence to others... but since all it is, is a spacer, I'll just stick to that, because that's what we call them around here.

PoweredbyCamry made a good point. I can be hard on noob's that come in here and just start spouting off. I have been here a loooooonng time. A lot of the people on here are like a second family to me and I'll be damned if someone is going to come in here and lie to my family. I don't think so.

I did some reseach on you GS, you seem to know your stuff for how young you are... being 20 and all... maybe 21 by now. I'm not sure if you know a little and just keep repeating the same idea's over and over but time will tell that one. I can only read so much at once on 10 different forums. Do you have any pictures of the setup in your Legend BTW?

As for the other 2 noob's that just happen to show up here... we'll see about you. I can't say GS and I have really gotten into it before... or if we did I don't remember. But he's not on the ignore list so it couldn't have been to bad if we did and so who else don't I get along with... since you've been here so long and know so much about me?

I have nothing against learning new things... we all have plenty to learn,... there's always someone out there that know's more.

As for my setup... you just don't understand how nice it sounds... trust me Plenty of people here have heard it.

 

I dont have a picture of my system in my car, mainly because I'm never finished (recently totaled). I went from many types of installation. CD1e piezo horns, the very rare CD3Ultra horns, ribbon tweeters, etc. I'm always out exploring so nothing ever gets done.

Plus the constant tuning through the Alpine PXA-H701 makes me want to try more things.

I'm sure your system sounds great. No one is going to argue that Alpine higher end speakers are cruddy. But who wouldn't mind better sound?


Actually. I dont know if there was any heat between us. Maybe it was between me and someone else. It was about the optima battery months ago

 

Nice Alpine controller I hope to pick up the new F! setup sooner rather than later.

I wouldn't think anyone would like better sound... if they did, that's just wierd

I think we both want the same thing but you just use different terms. Honestly though it won't sound any different if he uses that MDF 'baffle/spacer' cut from MDF or if he justs cuts the back of the stock speaker basket. I know I've done it both ways. The sound deadener will help a great deal however... we both agree on that one