I'm considering getting a powered sub for the S and ran across this Kenwood unit. Looks slim but I don't know if it's slim enough to fit under the seat. Anyone have any experience with this model? I'm looking for some extra bass in my system but don't want to take any space in the trunk.



Here's a link with some extra info

Crutchfield link

 

From what I understand, that is a bit too large to put under the seat. I just purchased the BASS600 8" self powered unit for use a couple of days ago, although it will fit, I'm more concerned about the sound of the unit. I'll let you know if the sound is more than adequate for its size.

 

update?

 

Ah, sorry, the full update is in the following link.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=551758

 

sweet, thanks

edit: d'oh, already seen that thread

 

i would just put a 12 in the wheel well in the trunk i myself just put a 12 inch kenwood sub in there and it sounds great i love it be4 putting it in though i fooled around with a little 8inch JL sub and the thing can hit but i couldnt find anywhere to hide the thing

 

I'd rather not lose the trunkwell and the tools in there in case I do get a flat. Besides, I like the ditch like effect in the well since it holds a lot of my bags and groceries in place while I drive. Works almost like a net for me.

 

groceries? the s2000 is not a grocery getter lol j/k i have friends with trucks so im not worried about flats or needing to haul stuff like laundry or groceries oh ya forgot to mention if ur rich theres a place u can buy a custom enclosure that goes where ur glove box on the center console is heres the site tight box but too expensive www.motormusicinc.com

 

Thats actually something I wanted to do from the get go. But I also didn't want to sacrifice the space in the console either.

Can you tell its my daily driver?

 

Resurrecting this thread as a winter project is underseat sub, and I'm looking at this Kenwood KSC-11 (as well as several others). I thought I would leave additional research I found that may be helpful to the next guy finding this thread.

The Kenwood KSC-11 may only be 75 watts rms, but the speaker it contains is rated with a sensitivity of 110db! The more sensitive a sub (the higher the sensitivity db spec), the more sound it puts out for the same power.

Amp power is kinda like horsepower, in that it doesn't tell the whole story unless you also know the cars weight. But with db scale, a mere 3 db difference is like comparing one car with twice as much as another! two speakers, one rated at 90db, the other 93db, the 90db one will need twice as much amps to sound as loud!

The Pioneer that is similar in dimensional size to this Kenwood, not only is it only 50 watts rms, its also less sensitive, 98db (though 98db is damn good). So to sound as loud as the Kenwood with its 75 watts rms and 110db, the sub used in the Pioneer would need to have an amp with 300watts rms!

So looking at some of the larger sized underseat amps, there are units out now with upwards of 200 watts rms, and several with 100-150 watts rms. Seems impressive, until you look at the sensitivity of the subwoofer inside them. Some are down around 88db. Some are up around 100db. But this little Kenwood, which doesn't even need a large power wire wire or direct battery connection can out loud them.

This of course doesn't even touch on SQ. Some of the cheaper units proliferating the market can't compare to quality brands like Pioneer (and Kenwood, to name a few).

So don't get sucked into looking only at rms power and sub size. Don't forget to look at speaker sensitivity, and remember the rule. 3db less sensitivity requires 2x power for the same sound level. By this measure, the Kenwood punches well above its weight.

One last note. For something to sound twice as loud requires a 10db increase in output. Thats not what we are discussing here. We are saying that a speaker with 3db less sensitivity requires twice as much power to sound as loud. Not the same thing.