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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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Unhappy Noise floor -- is an amp really worth it?

I've recently purchased Polk db6500's and a JVC KD-HDR1 head unit. The HU is 18Wx4 RMS.

I was considering getting an amp, but began to doubt myself when I realized, while driving 40 mph on my commuter road with the top up, that the noise floor is so loud in the s2k that there may not be a point to having an amp.

Is an amp really necessary? More importantly, can you actually tell the difference when the car is moving, given that the car itself is so loud? I don't listen to my music at ear-bleeding levels, so I can't use the reasoning that a 100Wx4 amp would eliminate the noise floor altogether.

I appreciate the feedback.
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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I guess by noise floor you mean road noise then... if so...

That's the whole reason to get an amp...
Good job you just talked yourself into getting an amp
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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Noise floor....thats a new one

Anywho, like John said, the whole point of an amp is to hear the music regarless. I can hear mine with a passenger seat full of grenades, and old ladies playing bingo.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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"Noise floor" is just the term used by audiophiles to describe ambient noise. The higher your noise floor, the less useful quality audio gear is. More info about noise floors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_floor.

For instance, if your noise floor is 75 dB (easily exceeded by the s2k, by the way), then there's really no point in getting speakers that reveal nuances below 75 dB difference. You can imagine the problem pretty easily by thinking about yourself next to a jet engine -- there's no point in quality audio gear if you can't tell the difference.

The question really is, can you tell the difference at non-ear-bleeding levels? For the folks that listen to music at 100 dB, I get that fancy audio gear makes a difference for you. But I'm not willing to listen at ear-piercing volumes; at regular volumes, does having an amp really make a perceivable difference?

Thanks.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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You just NEED TO GO SIT in a car with a nice audio setup....

I have NO NOISE virtually in my car after the dynamat job I did


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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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If you can come to the dragon this year. There will be a few of us who can show you the difference. Even with my Invidia exhaust humming the gear makes all the difference.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Great feedback, folks. It's good to know that it's still a perceivable difference, even below bleeding levels. If anyone else has had similar experiences, I'd love to hear about it before bunkering down to do a Serious Amp Install (I've never done it, so would only like to invest the time if it really makes a difference without rattling the windows).

s4play: the dynamat is installed in the doors, right? It seems to me most of the noise comes through the rag top -- does dynamat really eliminate (or greatly reduce) the road noise, given that you're not improving the roof of the car?
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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I can think of a few words that can answer that...

yes...

Yes...

YES!....
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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A lot of the noise that you perceive as coming in through the rag top is coming up through the floor.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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how about a clean s2000 stereo install?









you need this
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