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Of course, it doesnt hurt either 
I know in the home audio world, they have done tons of double-blind studies on the effects of expensive cabling, and the subjects can never tell the diff.
All a cable can do is preserve an audio signal's quality, and thats easily measurable by test equipment. A cable that "meets" the required specifications preserves the signal extremely well.
A better cable can not measurably "improve" that performance.

I know in the home audio world, they have done tons of double-blind studies on the effects of expensive cabling, and the subjects can never tell the diff.
All a cable can do is preserve an audio signal's quality, and thats easily measurable by test equipment. A cable that "meets" the required specifications preserves the signal extremely well.
A better cable can not measurably "improve" that performance.
I disagree.
If you read what you wrote then your saying that this:

Will work and sound just as good as this:

The twisted pair cable will be better... I can pretty much guarantee it.
We could however agree and I just don't understand how your explaining it.
If you read what you wrote then your saying that this:

Will work and sound just as good as this:

The twisted pair cable will be better... I can pretty much guarantee it.
We could however agree and I just don't understand how your explaining it.
Yep as swweeeeet as those Monsters look, I propose that you would not audibly be able to tell the difference, assuming the "cheap" cable is up to specifications for the job. That cheap cable would be mechanically weaker and wouldnt take much abuse though ...
Also, audio frequencies in wire are not subject to interference like video is. All that shielding and twisting is technology built to protect much higher frequencies and different types of transmissions, like computer signals and video.
Also, audio frequencies in wire are not subject to interference like video is. All that shielding and twisting is technology built to protect much higher frequencies and different types of transmissions, like computer signals and video.
Originally Posted by JohnR_in_la,Nov 21 2005, 11:58 PM
Yep as swweeeeet as those Monsters look, I propose that you would not audibly be able to tell the difference, assuming the "cheap" cable is up to specifications for the job. That cheap cable would be mechanically weaker and wouldnt take much abuse though ...
Also, audio frequencies in wire are not subject to interference like video is. All that shielding and twisting is technology built to protect much higher frequencies and different types of transmissions, like computer signals and video.
Also, audio frequencies in wire are not subject to interference like video is. All that shielding and twisting is technology built to protect much higher frequencies and different types of transmissions, like computer signals and video.
But you can believe whatever you want.
Originally Posted by flitcroft,Nov 21 2005, 10:18 PM
Monster cable is also a huge profit center for stores, its so cheap to make, since this technology has been around forever. Its really not a matter of belief, this stuff is easily measured and tested, and theres lots of examples of double-blind tests where listeners could never tell the difference between good cable, and poor cable.
Originally Posted by JohnR_in_la,Nov 21 2005, 10:58 PM
Yep as swweeeeet as those Monsters look, I propose that you would not audibly be able to tell the difference, assuming the "cheap" cable is up to specifications for the job. That cheap cable would be mechanically weaker and wouldnt take much abuse though ...
Also, audio frequencies in wire are not subject to interference like video is. All that shielding and twisting is technology built to protect much higher frequencies and different types of transmissions, like computer signals and video.
Also, audio frequencies in wire are not subject to interference like video is. All that shielding and twisting is technology built to protect much higher frequencies and different types of transmissions, like computer signals and video.
i HAVE double blinded the test, and the difference between cheap cable and higher grade (Monster or not) is readily noticable.
now, i also believe there is a steep law of diminishing returns....
the only thing i can agree with you on is this statement:
"Monster cable is also a huge profit center for stores, its so cheap to make..."
Monster is like bose. you're buying more name than product. but there are MANY companies out there that make high quality cables for much less than you'd pay for Monster, and much more than you'd pay for cheapies.
Yeah I just used those pictures as examples.
JohnR_in_la do you know anything about twisted pair cabling and why its used? and What makes it better than that standard crappy RCA's or speaker wire especially when it comes to car audio.
But hey you can believe whatever you want... the FACT is, is that just because you can't hear the difference doesn't mean I can't
Oh and as it turns out I can hear the difference...
What next, you gonna tell us that the stock HU is great?
JohnR_in_la do you know anything about twisted pair cabling and why its used? and What makes it better than that standard crappy RCA's or speaker wire especially when it comes to car audio.
But hey you can believe whatever you want... the FACT is, is that just because you can't hear the difference doesn't mean I can't
Oh and as it turns out I can hear the difference...
What next, you gonna tell us that the stock HU is great?
Ah, I'm late to this debate, but I have to chip in:
1. You can tell the difference between Monster Cable and cheap stuff. I can, at least. I had cheaper cable on my Home Theater before - so I was doing a before and after test with the sound quality.
2. Monster Cable comes in several different grades (when I bought my cable) and the differences between the three were not noticeable. The prices sure were.
3. The profit on Monster Cable is insane. I stocked up ages ago when I worked for a company selling the stuff. The employee discount was rather high - enough so that it didn't hurt to deck out my home theater system with this stuff. I'd have a bigger beef if the stuff was expensive and crap, but it's not crap - it's really nice cable at a really high price.
If you can get it cheaply, or know someone who can, it certainly won't hurt to use the stuff.
1. You can tell the difference between Monster Cable and cheap stuff. I can, at least. I had cheaper cable on my Home Theater before - so I was doing a before and after test with the sound quality.
2. Monster Cable comes in several different grades (when I bought my cable) and the differences between the three were not noticeable. The prices sure were.
3. The profit on Monster Cable is insane. I stocked up ages ago when I worked for a company selling the stuff. The employee discount was rather high - enough so that it didn't hurt to deck out my home theater system with this stuff. I'd have a bigger beef if the stuff was expensive and crap, but it's not crap - it's really nice cable at a really high price.
If you can get it cheaply, or know someone who can, it certainly won't hurt to use the stuff.



umm... if you say so. 