S2000 Electronics Information and discussion related to S2000 electronics such as ICE, GPS, and alarms.

Stock Front Speakers with OEM HU Rear Channels...

Thread Tools
 
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 07:19 PM
  #1  
JawKnee's Avatar
Thread Starter
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,466
Likes: 1
From: Newcastle, WA
Default Stock Front Speakers with OEM HU Rear Channels...

I decided to hook up a 6.5" mid from the stock component system to a rear channel of the OEM HU. Upon doing so, I noticed that it sounds nothing like it did when it was driven by the front channel.

Is the stock tweeter and mid wired in parallel? If so, is that why it didn't sound like it did when driven by the front channels since I only hooked up the mid, and the OEM HU saw a 4-ohm load instead of a 2-ohm load?

So why didn't it sound as good?
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 05:57 AM
  #2  
jwa4378's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 4,331
Likes: 0
From: Tallahassee, FL
Default

I think the front and rear channels have different output numbers (not 100% sure on this, though), as the rears are primarily for fill.

John
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 12:44 PM
  #3  
dbzerk's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,393
Likes: 0
From: Melbourne, Vic, Australia
Default

Are both speakers wired in phase??
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 02:07 PM
  #4  
SheDrivesIt's Avatar
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,061
Likes: 324
From: Land of Cincinnati Chili
Default

Wait, you didn't hook up the tweeters and you wonder why they sound different? Does it happen to sound like an Thomas Edison's record player?
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 02:55 PM
  #5  
JawKnee's Avatar
Thread Starter
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,466
Likes: 1
From: Newcastle, WA
Default

Originally Posted by SheDrivesIt,Nov 8 2005, 04:07 PM
Wait, you didn't hook up the tweeters and you wonder why they sound different? Does it happen to sound like an Thomas Edison's record player?
No bass.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:08 AM
  #6  
SheDrivesIt's Avatar
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,061
Likes: 324
From: Land of Cincinnati Chili
Default

You have these stock speakers still installed in the stock door locations or behind the seats in the plastic panels?
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:14 AM
  #7  
JawKnee's Avatar
Thread Starter
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,466
Likes: 1
From: Newcastle, WA
Default

Originally Posted by SheDrivesIt,Nov 9 2005, 11:08 AM
You have these stock speakers still installed in the stock door locations or behind the seats in the plastic panels?
After upgrading the fronts, I decided to see what the stock mid would sound like hooked up to the rear OEM HU channels. Based on how it sounded up front (volume, bass, etc), I was going to replace the 5.25" Kenwood coaxials I have back there in the panels. Upon hooking one up, it sounded just as weak as the Kenwood.

So perhaps as John mentioned, the rear OEM HU channels are weaker than the fronts in terms of output since the rears should be used as fill?

In any event, what is the impendance of the stock front setup? Is it not 2-ohms, since it appears that the tweeter and mid are wired in parallel?
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 12:59 PM
  #8  
PJK3's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,584
Likes: 1
From: Baton Rouge, LA
Default

can you describe it a bit better?
where were the stock speakers when you actually listened to them?
were they free-ballin'?
mounted somewhere?
sealed?
are you sure they were in phase?

the front speaker combo are close to 4 ohms, iirc. while they are wired in parallel, the bass blocker between the tweeter and the mid throws off a typical 2 parallel 4 ohms = 1 2 ohm load. it is likely the impedance is going to swing a bit at the higher frequencies.

btw, i'm shooting from the hip (ie memory), but i'm pretty sure it should be close to a 4 ohm load.


(and sorry John, but i'm pretty sure the OEM S2000 honda radio outputs the same wattage front and rear...)
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 06:57 AM
  #9  
jwa4378's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 4,331
Likes: 0
From: Tallahassee, FL
Default

Thanks for clearing that up Phil. I was not sure.....I have heard of channels putting out different wattages in other roadsters (I think the 1st gen. Miata HU did that.....i think....as the rear channels were imbedded in the headrest of the seats).

John
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 08:39 AM
  #10  
PJK3's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,584
Likes: 1
From: Baton Rouge, LA
Default

*nods*

that wouldn't surprise me at all. but as best i can recall, the S2000 OEM HU is an off the shelf unit, so it's actually configured for vehicles that do have rear speakers.

of course, i could be wrong... afterall, mine didn't stay in the car for more than about 1 month. (had to wait for the DCI to ship... ) i don't even remember what it looked like.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:57 PM.