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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by afzan
I have an alpine power pack in the passenger access panel and an older arc audio ks 125.2 under my passenger seat for my passenger footwell sub

I'm surprised you can fit an amp under there - does it interfere with the seat movement at all?
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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It's tight but it fits and doesn't interfere
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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I used the stock HU in the S and my other car for a while and when I finally got aftermarket HUs, the SQ greatly improved. I have a 15+yr old Nakamichi CD45z that looks great, very simple and clean, not the weird flashy stuff of today. But a better HU does make a considerable difference. The more I look at the PPI i350.2, the more I like it. Plenty of power to spare and so damn small. That should fit just about anywhere.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rtm5003
Fantastic! Thanks for posting these pics.

Is accessing that area as simple as removing the left side of the trunk carpeting??

Thanks again!
Yes, just remove the spare wheel cover, and then pop the two clips holding the left side carpeting in place, then just pull it back.

Since those photos were taken, I've done a rear tray mod to stop it rattling, and have removed all the OEM sound deadening, replacing it with some aftermarket stuff and some holes! That gives even more room under there. So much so I've had to take measures to stop the amp board bouncing up and down over bumps!
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 05:52 AM
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Here's another thread about over-gas-tank amps.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 06:16 AM
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For those interested in installing a KTP-445U with the OEM headunit, but don't want to hack up
the car's harness, you can build your own adapter harness using an off-the-shelf harness such as
a Metra 70-1721 combined with a reverse harness such as a Metra 71-1721.
One harness connects to the radio, the other to the car's harness, and the various wires connect
either to each other or to the KPT-445U.
Be aware that some, maybe most, of these harnesses lack the s2000-specific dash and mute wires -
there may be unused wires/pins (such as for rear sepakers if you don't have them) that you can
move within the connector to the suitable places for the dash controls.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by IHoP
One side of our trunk has our spare tire and the other side has a REALLLLLY tight spot to possibly put an amp depending how small it is. I was planning on trying to put my Alpine PDX-F4 amp which isn't THAT big in that spot but its just too tight for my liking. The gas tank creates a hump on that side of the trunk. I've never seen the compact amps that you listed so I don't know if those will fit in the small area next to the spare tire.

i have put some of the biggest amps out there in this spot with never an issue......

space about the gas tank is my prefered location for an amp..... 4 or 5 channel amp all fit there with no issues.

one probelm with these small compact amps is most are a class D amp, were these amps work fine for subs, the sound quality is just not there yet for mids/highs,

but the alpine pdx9 and the jl HD amps seem to have figured it out.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rtm5003
Yea, I would expect the factory HU to sound fine driven with an external amp - especially one that is designed to accept speaker-level inputs (or with a LOC.)

The biggest drawback for me would be hacking apart the factory wiring. And of course lack of connectivity options.

As far as aesthetics, you never need to look at the HU - that's what the radio door is there for!

IMHO, trying to keep the stock HU is more work than it's worth if you're upgrading the rest of the system anyway.
This is the conclusion I came to as well. When I first got my S in '04, the selection of aftermarket headunits with a nice, clean no-frills look was fairly slim. Lots of flashing lights and LCD graphic eq effects. The selection these days is much better, IMO. When my ipod adapter for my stock HU broke last year, I found the replacement was the same price as a new aftermarket HU with USB and bluetooth - I picked up an alpine 133BT and never looked back. I love the new 147/148/149 series, too, which has rear usb, higher resolution color-selectable LCD (including amber to match the S), and crowdsourced EQ settings. Lots of bang for your buck with those new HUs.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by oth
For those interested in installing a KTP-445U with the OEM headunit, but don't want to hack up
the car's harness, you can build your own adapter harness using an off-the-shelf harness such as
a Metra 70-1721 combined with a reverse harness such as a Metra 71-1721.
One harness connects to the radio, the other to the car's harness, and the various wires connect
either to each other or to the KPT-445U.
Be aware that some, maybe most, of these harnesses lack the s2000-specific dash and mute wires -
there may be unused wires/pins (such as for rear sepakers if you don't have them) that you can
move within the connector to the suitable places for the dash controls.
thats exactly what i plan on doing!
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2big4aS2000
Originally Posted by IHoP' timestamp='1366776762' post='22494940
One side of our trunk has our spare tire and the other side has a REALLLLLY tight spot to possibly put an amp depending how small it is. I was planning on trying to put my Alpine PDX-F4 amp which isn't THAT big in that spot but its just too tight for my liking. The gas tank creates a hump on that side of the trunk. I've never seen the compact amps that you listed so I don't know if those will fit in the small area next to the spare tire.

i have put some of the biggest amps out there in this spot with never an issue......

space about the gas tank is my prefered location for an amp..... 4 or 5 channel amp all fit there with no issues.

one probelm with these small compact amps is most are a class D amp, were these amps work fine for subs, the sound quality is just not there yet for mids/highs,

but the alpine pdx9 and the jl HD amps seem to have figured it out.
Wow if I could fit a real amp there I'd be in business. I've had my eye on the PDX series but never thought I'd have anywhere to put it.

What differentiates the technology in the Alpine PDX Class-D amps from the rest of the meh mainstream ones? We were discussing earlier the limited number of manufacturers and that most of the Class-D amps themselves come from the same few sources. I wonder what makes them so good?

At the price point of the PDX-V9/F6 they has some good competition. Worth the $?
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