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AEM Infinity on NA AP1

Old Jan 26, 2015 | 08:13 AM
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I'm looking at potentially purchasing the Infinity 6 setup for my AP1 in anticipation for going FI sometime in the near future. I am wondering how viable the off the shelf base map is from AEM in regards to a basically stock S2k. I would like to go ahead and get it up and running with the Infinity to do some base logging before venturing into boost. Does this seem like a viable option or is waiting better?
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 11:40 AM
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You wont make much for gains in NA setup, but its great legwork for when you DO go FI. I run the infinity and absolutely love it, so many nice features... the possibilities are endless. Setup and install are not too bad if you are stock atm, make sure to get a SoS flexfuel kit. A tune with an experienced dyno is always a must and cheap insurance.
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 12:37 PM
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I don't expect any miracles while still NA, just laying some foundation for boost later. I enjoy all the data acquisition stuff that's possible too so that's a plus. I live about 3 hours from wadzii at Central NC Speedshop so I would likely go through them to get everything and go through initial setup. Also there is literally zero places near me with E85 so I'm not sure I'd go with the flex fuel kit right off the bat.
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 12:46 PM
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Its good to install it so you have it when the time comes. Good thing Wadzii is close, id definitely use him if I lived in that area. Hit him up, hes definitely a pro in this area.
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 05:19 PM
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Gains with a completely stock AP1 (stock as can be).



Then throw some E85 at it (flex fuel w/ the Infinity), still stock.

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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Chitoki
make sure to get a SoS flexfuel kit.
Don't do that. It's a total rip off.

You can can get a brand new OEM GM sensor (which the SOS kit is using) for $50-60. The electrical connector is a 3-pin Delphi GT150. The connector kit with pins can be bought for $8. $20 tops for some milspec wire from Prowire USA. Fuel line, fittings, and clamps factor in another $50. You're looking $150 tops for the whole setup. How SoS is asking $240 is beyond me.

On a sidenote, I picked up an Infinity 6. It's still cold up here, so I installed it on a 2000 Civic EK hatch just to get used to it. I didn't use any of the supplied basemaps. I started a map completely from scratch. It fired up on the first try. Within an hour or two of street tuning, the car was running crisp. Very, very impressed with this ECU. The speed and accuracy is amazing.
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 06Estukay
Originally Posted by Chitoki' timestamp='1422304827' post='23482199
make sure to get a SoS flexfuel kit.
Don't do that. It's a total rip off.

You can can get a brand new OEM GM sensor (which the SOS kit is using) for $50-60. The electrical connector is a 3-pin Delphi GT150.
This, the whole "flex fuel kit" cost me $70. You buy the OEM GM sensor w/ pig tail, wires directly into the AUX connector on the Infinity. Then you just buy two of these:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RNB-800-085

Cut your return line leading from the FPR and stick the hose on those EFI connectors.

Sure you have to use a zip tie to secure the sensor instead of a "fancy" bracket, but who cares, it's in a location you can never see (nor even reach) without being under the car.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by VitViper
Originally Posted by 06Estukay' timestamp='1422334001' post='23482802
[quote name='Chitoki' timestamp='1422304827' post='23482199']
make sure to get a SoS flexfuel kit.
Don't do that. It's a total rip off.

You can can get a brand new OEM GM sensor (which the SOS kit is using) for $50-60. The electrical connector is a 3-pin Delphi GT150.
This, the whole "flex fuel kit" cost me $70. You buy the OEM GM sensor w/ pig tail, wires directly into the AUX connector on the Infinity. Then you just buy two of these:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RNB-800-085

Cut your return line leading from the FPR and stick the hose on those EFI connectors.

Sure you have to use a zip tie to secure the sensor instead of a "fancy" bracket, but who cares, it's in a location you can never see (nor even reach) without being under the car.
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Those numbers over stock are pretty decent honestly, better than I expected. For the cost of the GM Flex setup it might be worth it to just go ahead and set that up initially so if I do run into E85 I can pop it in and let it rip. I assume with the GM sensor installed the Infinity has an ethanol content readout so I don't have to go with something like the Zeitronix just to know the E content.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocklobsta1109
Originally Posted by VitViper' timestamp='1422340039' post='23482855
[quote name='06Estukay' timestamp='1422334001' post='23482802']
[quote name='Chitoki' timestamp='1422304827' post='23482199']
make sure to get a SoS flexfuel kit.
Don't do that. It's a total rip off.

You can can get a brand new OEM GM sensor (which the SOS kit is using) for $50-60. The electrical connector is a 3-pin Delphi GT150.
This, the whole "flex fuel kit" cost me $70. You buy the OEM GM sensor w/ pig tail, wires directly into the AUX connector on the Infinity. Then you just buy two of these:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RNB-800-085

Cut your return line leading from the FPR and stick the hose on those EFI connectors.

Sure you have to use a zip tie to secure the sensor instead of a "fancy" bracket, but who cares, it's in a location you can never see (nor even reach) without being under the car.
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Those numbers over stock are pretty decent honestly, better than I expected. For the cost of the GM Flex setup it might be worth it to just go ahead and set that up initially so if I do run into E85 I can pop it in and let it rip. I assume with the GM sensor installed the Infinity has an ethanol content readout so I don't have to go with something like the Zeitronix just to know the E content.
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You do not need the Zeitronix, the AEM handles the digital signal from the sensor natively.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 06Estukay
Originally Posted by Chitoki' timestamp='1422304827' post='23482199
make sure to get a SoS flexfuel kit.
Don't do that. It's a total rip off.

You can can get a brand new OEM GM sensor (which the SOS kit is using) for $50-60. The electrical connector is a 3-pin Delphi GT150. The connector kit with pins can be bought for $8. $20 tops for some milspec wire from Prowire USA. Fuel line, fittings, and clamps factor in another $50. You're looking $150 tops for the whole setup. How SoS is asking $240 is beyond me.

On a sidenote, I picked up an Infinity 6. It's still cold up here, so I installed it on a 2000 Civic EK hatch just to get used to it. I didn't use any of the supplied basemaps. I started a map completely from scratch. It fired up on the first try. Within an hour or two of street tuning, the car was running crisp. Very, very impressed with this ECU. The speed and accuracy is amazing.
Sure you can buy the sensor alone for around $70 but there was a lot more in that kit. You can piece harnesses together or pay a shop significantly more to make them plus all those earls lines are not cheap. It was a very convenient and well thought out kit. Super clean. They will sell you the sensor by itself but the rest of the kit makes up the parts. I attempted to price it together myself and the cost was a little more.
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