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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DFWs2k,Dec 5 2010, 11:16 AM
Yes, you will be good to go
Can you explain why it's good to go?
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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Because the 00-01 were very conservative with fuel and ignition. The ECU's got progressively leaner and more aggressive as MY's progressed. People have reported running the AP1 ecu on 2.2L motors with no ill effects...although I agree I would stay off the limiter for the sake of saving the bottom end from undue stress
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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there is a case where a 2.2L-AP1 ECU stock race motor blew up in a 30 min sprint discussed in the racing and comp forum. the cause seemed to be leaning out.

Ap1 also can run more ignition timing so the ap1 ecu prob has more timing.

staying away from prolonged 9k is definitely the rule.

you will also need to defeat the immobilizer. this can be done by swapping the ecu immobilizer chip or paying the dealer.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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I will have the key and everything for the 2001 car I bought. Basically bought a car without a motor or interior, but everything else included.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by maluch,Dec 7 2010, 07:27 PM
there is a case where a 2.2L-AP1 ECU stock race motor blew up in a 30 min sprint discussed in the racing and comp forum. the cause seemed to be leaning out.

Ap1 also can run more ignition timing so the ap1 ecu prob has more timing.

staying away from prolonged 9k is definitely the rule.

you will also need to defeat the immobilizer. this can be done by swapping the ecu immobilizer chip or paying the dealer.
which ap1? 00-01 or 02-03? 00-01 ran richer than 02-03
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 05:50 AM
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not sure, would need to find the post
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jaundice,Dec 1 2010, 05:06 PM
Can I put a 2.2 Liter bottom end on my motor and still use my stock AP1 ECU? Still planning on using my AP1 head with the bottom end.
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Yes, you can. I've done it.

I swapped an F22c longblock into my AP1 (heads are virtually the same). I'm currently using the AEM EMS with my turbo setup, but I used the stock MY01 ECU for 9 months (N/A, before turbo) or so with no problems. Take note though that the MY01 (and MY00) ECU is tuned the richest and thus most people deem the "safest", I'm unsure how it would run on a MY02 or MY03 ECU.

Cliffs: I can personally confirm a MY01 ECU will work with an F22c with no problems. Hit 9k plenty of times.

If you have any more questions about my setup feel free to ask here or via PM.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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Been over 40000km That i have my spoon ap1 ECU on my 04 ap2, hit 9k many time and never got a prob, spark plug read fine, compression and retainer are perfect
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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Was there a comprehensive analysis done on the differences in air fuel ratios used by ECUs from different years? I'm surprised to learn that Honda kept adjusting it every year.
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 02:53 PM
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There are a few people running Ap2 MY 04 engines with AP1 00-01 ecu hitting 9k without problems. Check the all motor section
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