I have the full race/35r combo and i am currently running 255lph wally and ID's 1000's. I plan on doing the Kenne bell BAP and a FPR. My tuner says that the injector duty cycle is down because of running the w/i and that i have a little bit more room. Its probably not a lot of room either. I want to run 2 nozzles for the aem water meth injection kit. How would you go about this? which 2 nozzles would you run and where would you place them? Will this be good enough to make 650whp? I plan on pushing this system to its limit with a built motor. Will this be difficult to tune? I currently have 1 550cc nozzle 6" from the throttle plate or so. Need help from the tuners or water/meth heads

 

hmm, if that was my setup, i would put id2000 injectors, that plus BAP, and your already working water meth setup should be fine. if anything turbo will become problem.

dont forget to rewire pump for more voltage.

i wouldnt do dual nozzles personally. aem pump can only flow so much, and you would be relying on it heavily if you did that.

 

I'm w/Cman on this.

Single nozzle is best imo.

It's good for 600whp on pump gas, above that you should be using race gas anyway.

 

I have the Perrin PWI-2 meth kit brand new.... search it and LMK if you want it.
comes with 2 gallon tank

 

Well what pressure are you running at the rail? The ID1000s can flow 1600cc if you up your pressure at the rail

 

Did your tuner suggest the Kenne Bell Boost-A-Spark with using all that Water/Methanol?

Evans suggested I rewire my Fueul pump and with the largest AEM Nozzle for the Meth injection I should definitely use the Boost a Spark

just some food for thought

 

Isn't two nozzles better than one? On snow performance website they have a add-on were you can add another nozzle. I want to know what the down side to running more water meth would be other than spark. I am running 43.5 psi at the rail with injector dynamics 1000's. Ill be rewiring the pump as well. Im sure more hp can be achieved with more than one nozzle. more fuel plus more meth and spark? Maybe i have it wrong. I want to know if this can be done. I would do race gas but i really don't find any pleasure in switching gas and switching maps opposed to just going to the gas station and gettin 93. I already know ill be dependant on the aem w/i system but i plan on staying on top of the system. Maybe direct port water meth injection 4 nozzle's j/k guys

 

i made it, check my build out.


made 653 tho

 

Well if you get a FPR and run more pressure behind the rail the injectors can flow more, the most ideal setup is to take 100psi, and subtract the max amount of boost you are going to run and set the FPR at that point.

As far as methanol, the size that AEM includes is pretty small in the sizes available. The positive displacement superchargers on ClubRSX are running single 14gph or dual stage nozzles on Kpro with a 10gph and a 7gph.

They are seeing temps start to rise during a WOT pull and then come down almost below the start temperature at redline. This is running the M62 all the way to 15psi which according to the compressor map has 200+ deg oulet temperatures.

Im not sure what psi the aem pumps run, but alcohol injection systems has 200+psi pump. With dual nozzles you can also spray before the turbocharger if you want to help cool the housing as well as the final charge as it comes into the throttle body.

 

The key thing is to ensure that you are getting proper atomization of the water/meth and you are injecting the correct mass flow of water/meth.


The advantage to using two nozzles (assuming your pump has the capacity for the pressure drop)

1) dual nozzles usually allow for better distribution
2) dual nozzles at the same fixed mass flow rate of the single nozzle usually result in a finer water droplets due to dual smaller nozzles then a larger single nozzle
3) the finer water droplets result in a substantial increase in surface area and result in lower IATs.