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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 07:38 PM
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I use to run copper plugs . I would always have erratic modifry temp gauge readings . I put in some good ngk iridium plugs and my temp gauge works perfect now . Oh and this is with Aem 1052 ems . Spend the money and do it right !!
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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by joes sled 2000
I use to run copper plugs . I would always have erratic modifry temp gauge readings . I put in some good ngk iridium plugs and my temp gauge works perfect now . Oh and this is with Aem 1052 ems . Spend the money and do it right !!
Your problem had nothing to do with them being copper plugs, it had to do with them being non resister copper plugs.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 05:41 AM
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Yes, you need resister plugs.

BKR8E is a copper resister plug with a heat range of 8 (1 colder than stock). I don't understand why people run racing plugs (non-resister).
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 06:03 AM
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Who sells the BKR8E-11's? None of the chains seem to carry them (Napa, Oriley's, Autozone, Advance) and the one Amazon listing for them seems sketch.

I haven't experienced any issues with my non-resistor R5671A-8's, but if you guys think its better to run resistor plugs I guess I'll switch
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 08:52 AM
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It is tough to find. I don't think the plug has any OEM automotive applications, which is why auto parts stores don't have it. There is actually an OEM Honda Motorcycle part number for the plug.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detai...079-5814E.html

You may have luck finding it at you Honda bike shop. The OE application is a XR650R. I know its also used for boat motors. If you want to run NGK copper plug, with a resister at heat range 8, its the only option. It is the exact same as the BKR7E that everyone runs but it is one colder.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Originally Posted by joes sled 2000' timestamp='1409110683' post='23303527
I use to run copper plugs . I would always have erratic modifry temp gauge readings . I put in some good ngk iridium plugs and my temp gauge works perfect now . Oh and this is with Aem 1052 ems . Spend the money and do it right !!
Your problem had nothing to do with them being copper plugs, it had to do with them being non resister copper plugs.
Yes you are correct . Non resistor copper plugs were being used . I should have been a little more specific . As i recall many FI s2k's were using these ngk 71 something .... God i don't remember !
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by joes sled 2000
Originally Posted by s2000Junky' timestamp='1409115915' post='23303593
[quote name='joes sled 2000' timestamp='1409110683' post='23303527']
I use to run copper plugs . I would always have erratic modifry temp gauge readings . I put in some good ngk iridium plugs and my temp gauge works perfect now . Oh and this is with Aem 1052 ems . Spend the money and do it right !!
Your problem had nothing to do with them being copper plugs, it had to do with them being non resister copper plugs.
Yes you are correct . Non resistor copper plugs were being used . I should have been a little more specific . As i recall many FI s2k's were using these ngk 71 something .... God i don't remember !
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Yes the 7173. I had electrical interference with these as well.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 05:42 PM
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ill be honest with you...ive been running Iridium EIX 8 and 9's and switched to a set of BKR9's and shit runs great!! $10 a set is better than $46
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by liquid_helix136
They are non-resistor type plugs, HUGE pain in my ass until I figured out what was wrong. These plugs cause a ton of electrical interference on all the other electronics in the car.

I ran into problems like my speedometer would randomly cut in and out when I had 4.77s and it was running through a yellow jacket and my laptop constantly going offline when I was connecting to Kmanager or AEM via USB. Someone mentioned my plugs, and when I swapped them to the BKR8EIX Iridiums, I never encountered these issues every again.

And you know its always possible that that interference was causing other issues throughout the car that I just never noticed. if it were to mess with my external wideband or OEM narrowband and throwing them off without me knowing, that could have been detrimental to my build. You never know, cheaping out on these plugs is a rookie mistake I would try to avoid.
i guarantee you thats the crappy aem board. ive seen it numerous times on the engine dyno with aem. same car on FAST, never had a problem. needless to say i have never had a problem with non-resistor plugs on motec. and i know a lot of hondata guys run non-resistor plugs with no issues.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 10:38 PM
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How often are you guys changing them and what size gap?
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