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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Sep 30 2009, 11:33 PM
I make 10-10.5psi with my 3.6 sos pulley, thats more consistent at sea level for a stock to moderate size exhuast. 3.2" pulley is rated at 12-13 at sea level, so your going to be in trouble with the 3", some see as much as 18psi with this one. (3.4" 11psi) is likely as far as your going to get with your stock map sensor at sea level.

Your post is long is long winded
No one is seeing 18psi on a 3 inch pulley with the Novi 1000 supercharger. I think you're thinking of SOS guys with the Novi 1200 and a non-factory sized crank pulley because the supercharger is more capable than the original Novi 1000.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by spectacle,Oct 1 2009, 05:05 AM
In comparison, aftermarket map sensors (like the GM 3 bar) are cheap. Just get one and have one less thing to worry about.
That may be but the consideration is the cost of the re tune once you change map sensors. So its closer to a $500 mod that may or may not be absolutely necessary.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:37 AM
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[QUOTE=CourageOO7,Oct 1 2009, 06:19 AM] No one is seeing 18psi on a 3 inch pulley with the Novi 1000 supercharger.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Oct 1 2009, 11:31 AM
That may be but the consideration is the cost of the re tune once you change map sensors. So its closer to a $500 mod that may or may not be absolutely necessary.
With or without a new MAP sensor, if you're going to be running more boost then you're going to need to get a new tune. You can't just change pullies and think that you'll be good to go since you didn't get a new map sensor.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CourageOO7,Oct 1 2009, 08:38 AM
With or without a new MAP sensor, if you're going to be running more boost then you're going to need to get a new tune. You can't just change pullies and think that you'll be good to go since you didn't get a new map sensor.
Thats true, I forgot you were changing your boost also, though you will be spending more time and money at the tuner developing a whole new tune rather then an hour making some tweaks.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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get aftermarket map sensor and see the correct boost. that way you could drive your car to sea level and not grenade it.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Oct 1 2009, 11:43 AM
Thats true, I forgot you were changing your boost also, though you will be spending more time and money at the tuner developing a whole new tune rather then an hour making some tweaks.
With the AEM you should just be able to switch the MAP sensor option to the correct one. That way the ecu will know what voltage is what boost pressure. Anyway, I tune my own car so I can post up later and let you know...but I really think it's going to be a touch up in the upper rev's and an adjustment to the MAP sensor setting option in AEM Pro.

Anyway, obviously I'll be getting a new MAP sensor. I was really just wondering if someone at altitude found that a new MAP wasn't necessary at these boost levels because absolute pressure is about 15% lower than at sea level.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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remember, once you change the map sensor to the new one, if its a aem 3.5 bar, the load break points will scale to 16 equal spaced points from -15 to +30ish. then you can change the scale to say -14 to 18ish. but all your load break points will change.

have two aem pros open. and cut and paste from old tune to new tune rows that match up the closest and calc the rest to get ball park. sounds worse then it is.

ALSO, check your vtec crossover points as they are voltaged based and will change when you wizard the new map sensor.
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[QUOTE=CourageOO7,Oct 1 2009, 09:09 AM] With the AEM you should just be able to switch the MAP sensor option to the correct one.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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I'm in Denver and I'm running the SOS 3.2" pulley on my CTSC. The highest boost I've seen with this setup is 9.3lbs (damn altitude )

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